Ciao friends, I have tried a few different methods of propogation. My favorite is to always stick the stick in loose soil and spray occasionally and stick roots into beautiful tree with no troubles. I never liked the bag method unless I used newspaper, but it becomes too used to moisture and doesn't accilmilate to drier environment quickly and the stick shocks. I never went into too much burdens with so many methods, I did want to find a few years back, maybe a method that works better than the OLD methods, but I have come to this conclusion that them OLD methods are still good! Rain water is sooo wonderful. I had used rain water before, but I was very impatient then, and worried the small white mush bumps that come was all that would happen and It would never grow good roots, I was wrong. I have almost 87 cuttings this fall but first cleaned and simply filled small plastic containers with good pure rainwater, and let them sit in warm 80 degrees environment, first the mushy white root looking things come and then the good strong roots, very quickly, especially near the strong heat (the ones closest to the hot radiator heat). I never ever cover them, just mist them lightly every day. Every last one rooted beautifully and starting to go to small pots for myself and customers reserved for the spring! Also, I personally think that Not complete dormant cuttings work the very very best! The real dormant cuttings in past never rooted as quickly or as well, so I wonder about the dormant thing. For me, in fall, even before leaves have come off, take these cuttings and root them, they absolutely root for me much better. I also, have made great rooting success with green cuttings in summertime, they grow beautifully!! One thing I like to do is to take all the MARKED cups, one at a time to rinse then refresh the rainwater, maybe 2 times week, this allows good oxygen in the water. Keep the varieties marked well and maybe separate them well too. If you want to check your sticks, lift the cup and all to view each variety because you may forget which cup you lifted the stick out of and then you have a big variety mixup and have to discard the stick!!!!!! Sorry haven't been a part of forums lately, very very busy with CHRISTMAS cooking. Ciao amici!