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My New Fig House (Using recycled windows)

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Recycled windows and doors were a great resource especially as my local glass shop tosses them out regularly. Used sliding glass doors can be had for about $10 if you have to buy them. Unfortunately I rushed in like a bull in a china shop without a solid plan in place. This ended up costing me double in professional help. (I personally played saw man and gopher). Instead of collecting windows first and designing around my materials (as I should have), I put in my foundation blocks first and my builder was then forced to design window placement around what was already in place, which not only cost me window space, but lots of aggravation, as we were constantly wasting time without a drawn out plan. First most of the glass I scrounged were odd sized most of which I had to dispose of. I should have stuck with sliding glass doors which I eventually did for the majority of the project. Don't make the mistakes I did. If you attempt to use recycled windows, make absolutely sure (that if you are using large pieces)- make sure first that for safety's sake that the glass is tempered, and try and use as much same-sized glass as you can.  We used 36" x 76" sliding glass doors for the top and 3-sides. (sliding glass doors (outside of there original frames) waste little space and are very easy for (2 people) to re-frame in place. We broke one, so have an extra one or two on hand just in case. We purchased 2 x 4 pressure treated studs for the frame and for all of the rest we used cheap, but good looking and weather resistant- $3.00 per length (5-1/2" wide by 6ft. Redwood fencing) for the exterior. We cut the fencing to various widths and lengths on both a table saw and miter saw. We attached to the 2" x 4" framing, using -Porter Cable brad and staple guns- shooting crown staples for the window frames and 11/2" collated finish nails for attaching siding and finish framing to the 2 x 4 frame. For ventilation, the recycled entry door, has a large screen area in the middle, we added a sliding window above the door, and two hinged panels at the top of the (left end) of the structure. I will be filling the floor with gravel, and will water my figs and cuttings from my fish pond below.

We have an average sized city lot and because my yard area is already fenced and planted I only had a small remaining corner to work within, just above the aprx. 800 gallon pond.  I had to go with a 5 sided design to get the most available space. My foundation was built to provide walking space around the sides of the grape vines I'd planted last year, or I would have had about double the available space to work with. It's a small floor plan- no more than 60 or so sq. feet but I am very happy with the results. We of course caulked the window framing, before setting the windows in, giving us a waterproof interior, but I still need to caulk the outsides of the window frames and of course wash the windows (LOL), but still it was finished enough to move plants into.  

I'm trading for some used restaurant racks for the interior, which will give me more vertical growing space and I plan on plumbing the electric and a faucet as I have time and money. But for now I'm very happy. I didn't keep accurate accounting, but I think materials were well under a thousand, but when I get my Home Depot bill I can provide some numbers if any one is interested. Click on the link at the top, if you'd to see the photo's. Sorry but some of the pics are a little tilted (just like yours truly)  Happy Figging! Noel

A real good looking greenhouse, Noel. A perfect spot for those figs. Well done.

Looks great, Noel! It appears we had similar ideas. You can find mine here:

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=7912644

I like your style with the siding!

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Originally Posted by figgary
A real good looking greenhouse, Noel. A perfect spot for those figs. Well done.


Thanks. I really didn't know how it would turn out, but I'm thinking that overall it will do the trick! Btw. Enjoyed the video immensely.

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Originally Posted by EDoukas
Looks great, Noel! It appears we had similar ideas. You can find mine here:

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=7912644

I like your style with the siding!


It's been a dream of mine. It was a real luxury item for us at this time but I think it will have a long term positive return. Thanks for the kind words.

Noel, first I just want to congratulate you for doing such a great job. It is very nice. Also, thanks for writing about your experience and how others can benefit. This can be a great learning experience for many. I also really like your inginuity in finding ways to reuse and recycle materials. I like saving money whenever possible and especially when it means we can save our environment. So, im curious as to the overall cost? And, it really turned out great!!!

Hi Symfigs. Thank you. When I get my materials bill I will post it. Labor was the greatest expense. I'm embarrassed at what it ended up costing, verses what it should have cost. If I had made a proper plans, and all materials were on hand, I estimate that  the labor portion for the handy-man/friend I hired (who knew all phases of general construction) should have been around 40 hours @ $20.00 per hr. (not including my own labor), but I'm not working at the moment so my time was inconsequential. Instead, it took us about 65+ hours each, not including numerous time wasters like the extra runs to home depot, because we were guessing on how much wood and hardware (the size of staples and nails, drip edge etc.) we would need. There are several ways to simplify design which saves $$$ like no little or no finish work or running the fencing vertically for a minimally finished look. (I went with a 5 sided wall design) which complicated the layout (especially the roof). I also used redwood fencing for 'everything' except the wood frame and block foundation. Though this was an inexpensive material, it did take alot of time on the table and chop saws getting the pieces to the correct width and lengths instead of running basically whole pieces for most of it. If I had chosen to use T-1-11 finished composite siding, it too would have been inexpensive, looked good and a big time saver as well, as well. Remember in a proper design, it's the glass that should take up most of the space, so finish work should be minimal where-as ours was about 1/3 of the project. Remember almost no finish work outside of framed windows is possible if using pressure treated wood. In addition as simple design, with a less finished look,  would have saved an additional 10-15% in material waste. Again a good plan with an eye on having materials to plan around before construction, and using entire runs of material, is a must at keeping the cost down. But still I am very happy with the look and function, and I would most definitely do it again, with more pre-planning. Thanks for the encouraging words.

Hi,
Really nice looking !
You have a flat roof ... it seems ... Don't you get snow ? (I'm in Zone7 if you wonder ...)

You could have done it cheaper :
Sometimes you can find/get old doors, the ones with a glass in the middle .
You can basically nail them one to the other - 2, 3 or 4 doors per side. This way you can quickly build a greenhouse .
One side can be put on a wooden beam laying flat to set the roof with an angle. You just need to close the gap at the top with some plastic sheet.

Very very nice

Thank you. It was a labor of love for sure.

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Originally Posted by jdsfrance
Hi,
No it's on a pitch. All the glass and door were free. I like the idea of wooden doors as well. Anything upcycled is good. My mantra is "if it's free... it's for me!" 

Really nice looking !
You have a flat roof ... it seems ... Don't you get snow ? (I'm in Zone7 if you wonder ...)

You could have done it cheaper :
Sometimes you can find/get old doors, the ones with a glass in the middle .
You can basically nail them one to the other - 2, 3 or 4 doors per side. This way you can quickly build a greenhouse .
One side can be put on a wooden beam laying flat to set the roof with an angle. You just need to close the gap at the top with some plastic sheet.

Wow, Noel!  How amazing!  It looks gorgeous too!  What an amazing job!

Checking my Home Depot statement, material costs were $630.00 for this project.

Beautiful job!  I tend to get anxious myself.  I still don't learn from my mistakes though..  ;)

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