PeterC
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This is my Persimmons Tree, its about 5 years old.
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SarinaP
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Beautiful!!!
Growing in Zone 7a: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_uY4GZ90-gNAdZFS0enckqojLQT2-8cp2pcsRp-Bdqg/edit?usp=sharing Wishlist: leaning toward French cultivars!
ross
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Posted 1446940110
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I've never had one. How do they taste?
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pino
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Posted 1446942602
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Wow those look amazing! Bet they were very sweet and delicious?
Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres
PhilaGardener
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Looks great! Glad to see your garden getting back in shape!
Jsacadura
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ross,
PeterC
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yes, Hachyia Persimmons, we wait until they are soft enough to eat with a spoon, absolutely delicious. I guess to explain the taste would be like a plum?? maybe.
ross
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Sounds like something I'd be interested in growing. Which varieties do you guys recommend? Asian? American? Astringent? Non astringent?
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Jsacadura
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I couldn't say about American varieties.
ross
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I see, I'll have to be on the lookout at the grocery store and try some. I really want to grow a lot of unusual fruits, but some I'm kind of in the dark with when it comes to taste. I've lived a sheltered fruit life, haha. Goji berries and seedless che are also two fruits I've had my eye on, but never had.
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Smyfigs
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PeterC: very nice tree!! I have a Fuyu that fruited only once and never again!! Its been 13 years! I have cilonsidered chopping it down but its a beautiful tree (sans fruit). Not sure why it doesnt fruit. Sny suggestions?
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PeterC
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I always save the tree tags, this is exactly the one I have.
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Vladis
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My persimmon,Jiro.
jkuo
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Ross,
Johnny - Lancaster, PA, Zone 6b Plants I'm growing: Google Doc
Smyfigs
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Yes, odd. No fruit produced at all. And, yes Im missing out!! I love persimmons. Such great fruit. I've looked around on line for info but found no clue as to why. Maybe I'll search again. Every year I think it might fruit again but it doesn't. Thats why now its about 15 feet tall.
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TucsonKen
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Thanks for sharing the photos, everybody! Persimmons (especially the astringent types) are very high on my list of favorite fruits. Peter C, if you don't have a bird problem, you might try leaving your Hachiyas on the tree until they begin to soften. They tend to ripen quite well even when picked rock-hard and left to soften on the counter, but to me they develop a sweeter, better flavor if left on the tree until they start to soften--or at least till they turn bright red-orange.
PeterC
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I have both bird and squirrel issues here, when the leaves drop (now) the critters spot them and invade.
ross
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Johnny,
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Smyfigs
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Smyfigs
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Vladis My persimmon,Jiro.
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PeterC
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I have not heard anyone doing this with Persimmons Meg, I am sure people here will know but it would be news to me.
Jsacadura
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I think Meg wants the cuttings to graft on another Persimmon tree, PeterC.
Vladis
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Tamopan large.It созревает.
PeterC
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Hey Meg, I found this on the web that may help.http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/fruits/persimmon/persimmon-tree-not-fruiting.htm https://www.ppdl.purdue.edu/PPDL/weeklypics/6-14-10.html http://anneofgreengardens.com/2012/05/persimmon-tree-not-blooming/
figlayla
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wow i didn't know these would grow in Long Island. will these fruit if potted and not in ground? I would be interested in cuttings to try and root as as my wife and i love persimmon but they are very expensive so its often a treat when we get them. Ill have to do some research on persimmon trees. Were can i get one around here? is the temperament similar to that of a fig tree were it needs to be brought in for winter etc...
joe morle Goccia d'Oro, atillio purple, black mission.
TucsonKen
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I don't believe cuttings will root. I tried to air layer one once, and it didn't work. Your best bet is to buy one from a nursery, or get a seedling and graft your own. There are lots of people willing to share scions but first you need a rootstock.
waynea
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I have tried to root several varieties and ended up buying grafted trees....astringent and non-astringent.
PeterC
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I believe these trees are too large for a pot.
Smyfigs
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Vladis Tamopan large.It созревает. Meg-Hardiness Zone 10a
Smyfigs
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Smyfigs
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Yum!
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Smyfigs
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Great info on persimmons! I may have to go buy another one now!!
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Smyfigs
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PeterC I always save the tree tags, this is exactly the one I have.
Meg, that is odd that it is not producing anymore. I have no idea why this would be.
You are missing out on many years of delicious fruit thought
I used to save tags all the time but after a couple of moves i threw them out
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TucsonKen
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I've grafted a few other varieties onto my Hachiya. It's pretty easy, and might be a work-around solution for a tree that isn't producing. At any rate, it's fun to see the different types, and compare them. For example, these are Saijo (first season producing--I hope they're bigger next year). Saijo, Tamopan, and Matsumoto are all grafted onto the upper branches of my Hachiya, and are producing.
saijo
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I have two Saijo trees one is larger than the other, the small Saijo tree had less fruit on it this year, but the fruit was larger than the ones on the larger Saijo tree...as you may know less fruit on a fruit tree usually gets larger fruit....some folks take the time to thin some of the fruit so the ones left on the tree get larger.
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saijo
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Looking for Tamopan cuttings.
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Smyfigs
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TucsonKen I've grafted a few other varieties onto my Hachiya. It's pretty easy, and might be a work-around solution for a tree that isn't producing. At any rate, it's fun to see the different types, and compare them. For example, these are Saijo (first season producing--I hope they're bigger next year). Saijo, Tamopan, and Matsumoto are all grafted onto the upper branches of my Hachiya, and are producing.
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PeterC
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Posted 1447042559
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That is awesome, I never tried grafting anything yet. So much I need to learn, God willing, I have the time to learn and try it.
TucsonKen
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A couple of generous forum members gave me the opportunity to do some persimmon grafting. One shared scions from his various cultivars, and the other sent a dozen or so seedlings (for rootstocks) left over from his large-scale grafting project. Since the scions arrived before the rootstocks were ready for grafting, I top-worked the scions onto my mature Hachiya, simply as a place to store them. The following year, when the seedlings were ideal for grafting, I clipped new scions from the established grafts, and grafted several new trees for myself, friends and family. Most of the original grafts are still on the Hachiya and doing fine, although one variety (Eureka) didn't survive its second year. I did graft several of one type onto the tree, just as insurance.http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/simple-stepbystep-grafting-5830743? http://citrus.forumup.org/about500-citrus.html
pino
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A couple of questions for growing persimmons in cool climates like zone 6;
Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres
PeterC
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Here Pino, this can explain: http://homeguides.sfgate.com/cold-climate-persimmon-trees-30343.html https://www.garden.org/ediblelandscaping/?page=Edible-of-the-MonthPersimmon
HarveyC
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My Fuyu is over 15 years old and very productive. My Saijo is 2 years old and growing very vigorously, but no fruit yet. When I get some Saijo fruit (next year, I hope!), I ant to try the warm water method mentioned in this video:
Harvey - Correia Farms
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Smyfigs
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HarveyC My Fuyu is over 15 years old and very productive. My Saijo is 2 years old and growing very vigorously, but no fruit yet. When I get some Saijo fruit (next year, I hope!), I ant to try the warm water method mentioned in this video:
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Smyfigs
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Originally Posted by
TucsonKen A couple of generous forum members gave me the opportunity to do some persimmon grafting. One shared scions from his various cultivars, and the other sent a dozen or so seedlings (for rootstocks) left over from his large-scale grafting project. Since the scions arrived before the rootstocks were ready for grafting, I top-worked the scions onto my mature Hachiya, simply as a place to store them. The following year, when the seedlings were ideal for grafting, I clipped new scions from the established grafts, and grafted several new trees for myself, friends and family. Most of the original grafts are still on the Hachiya and doing fine, although one variety (Eureka) didn't survive its second year. I did graft several of one type onto the tree, just as insurance.
Here's a post from back when I was first starting to graft, describing the steps I used:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/simple-stepbystep-grafting-5830743? I am sure there are other methods that will work, but I found this approach to be quite reliable and easy. Here are the original instructions I learned from--they are better than the description I posted, and far more detailed. However, to see the photos you'll need to register with the Citrus Growers Forum:
http://citrus.forumup.org/about500-citrus.html Meg-Hardiness Zone 10a
