I bought a preto in San Diego in March, brought it on my flight back to NYC and grew the heck out of the plant with miracle gro, it reached about 4.5 feet,and produced side shoots and about 18 fruits. The only ones that ripened in the summer, about 2-3, were rather dry and tasteless. The remainder ripened (if that is the right word) by undergoing near freezing temperatures after superstorm Sandy, I was able to eat about ten of the fruits in mid to late november, they were sweeter and concentrated, also a bit shrunken. I transplanted into one of Bill Muzichko's pots and am hoping for better results this year!