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My stepover fig project

From the first time I saw the Japanese stepover figs I knew I had to try it.  The support rail is rebar with welded legs holding it up.  The legs are cemented in and the top rail sits 18" above ground so there is about a foot of mulch now but it will settle and rot down.  It is about 60 feet total with one 90 degree turn.  It is basically L shaped.  On the long side will be VDB and the short side will be JH Adriatic.   Can't wait to get it planted though I won't have enough of the two varieties to plant the entire thing at once.  Spacing will be 7 feet.  Ignore the chicken that just had to get in the shot.  


 

Good project. You should get a lot of figs growing it that way, and easier to pick. No ladders involved.
I'm going to try my hand at that this summer for other reasons. I'll be able to protect them better in winter, at least that's the plan.

So then...you're going to run laterals along the rail, then allow verticle branching off the two laterals?
Looks pretty cool.

Looks great. Reminds me of a monorail.

Yes each plant will have 2 arms one heading each way.  I have not made up my mind if I will have the verticals come off the main laterals or if I will allow horizontal arms to develop every XX inches and have the verticals come off of them.   I have some time to decide:)  

Please keep us updated with pics of your progress as your trees grow.   You're going to have a beautiful hedge.

WillsC
I live in South Florida, zone 10b and I have read about Japanese commercial production. I have a LSU purple and when I cut the leader it started growing like a grapevine.
The lateral branches got long and certain (two) touching the ground started rooting: this is when I planted two stakes, connected them with a wire and tied the branches to the wires as if it was a vine. It works with some varieties but it is harder with a fast grower like Atreano.
Sal

I think it's a wonderful idea!  I look forward to seeing your posts in the future!  The configuration of our property (hopefully to be) is not conducive to hedges, but I do intend to keep the figs pruned short for easy harvesting. 

Suzi


Vitalucky,

I know it is going to take a lot of pruning.  It will be a fun experiment.  


Suzi,

I have two regular hedges laid out for the figs, I love hedges lol.  One will be 160 feet and the other about 80.  Those though will be made up of many different varieties.   For the stepovers I want just one variety per leg.  It has been suggested I move the spacing a bit futrher apart.

Jon,

I have seen the link.....while there are a lot of pictures out there the information as far as spacing is very lacking.  

Have also finished the shelves in the downstairs windows.

WillsC,
Thanks for posting. I am planning to try a few fig espaliers also. Attached is a PDF in Japanese that has most dimensions (metric) for spacing and diagrams for training the espalier.  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/file?id=1401311
Please keep us updated. Good Luck.

<edit> Spacing of vertical limbs on page 13 & 14: 8 inches (20cm) between on alternate side of main trunk and 16 inches (40cm) on same side of main trunk. (I round out the conversions 4 inch = 10cm)
If the Verticals are in-line it would be approximately 12 inches between verticals.

Ascpete,

Wish I could read japanese:)  I can see the between row spacing but still looking for the in row spacing.  

Bobby,

Well.....the main limbs will be at ground level.  The fruiting arms will be unbranched and probably 4+ feet tall so the chickens won't be able to reach them easily.  But if they get some figs so be it.  I am planting 50 varieties of figs and will probably have 70 plants.  I sure as heck can't eat all those figs so the 11 chickens and 23 ducks can turn figs in to eggs and meat for me, a win win.  While I donate a lot of produce to charity the figs would be a problem.  I am already thinking about ways to use them all.  One thought is to pack them for sale at the local farmers market then donate the proceeds.  I have a friend that already sells there so if I give her a % I'm sure she would sell them along with her items.  In any event I have time to work all that out.  


Looks great Wills. I had also been thinking about this for the same reason as Tony. Easier to protect in winter. I've already started using a deep mulch method for winter protection. This would be a new dimension of that.

I'd also thought about how the chickens will enjoy any figs within reach. Just their nature to peck at anything that looks like it "could be" food. Do you keep any particular breed of chickens (getting off topic. but just curious :-) )?

Looks like a Rhode Island Red to me, and yep!  Those chickens will be in chicken heaven!!
Suzi

I'd say the chicken looks like Comets. I have a couple of them. Good size eggs and they only rest for a short period when it gets cold.

WillsC,  figured you had seen the pix, but others might not have seen them. Pix always help people understand. ;-))

If the chickens eat your figs, will they lay figs? Or maybe fig flavored eggs? Just asking :-)) .

woo.. fig stuffed chicken.

From the top:)

Ascpete,

I found that also..what I am trying to find is spacing on center between plants?  I will do more translating on the PDF.

Saxon,

I keep 11 chickens, 5 Barred rocks, 4 Buff Orphingtons and 2 Silver laced Wyndottes.

Suzi and Tony,

The chicken that is in the pic is a Buff Orphington.

Nobody asked but the ducks are Muscovies.

Jon,

Pictures are always helpful:)  You are right..I should have posted it as some probably did not know what stepover figs were.  

Saxon,

Yes.....if they eat a lot of figs they could lay eggs that had a fig taste, in theory anyway.  The reason I know that is I love to fish.  We catch a lot of grouper in the Gulf of Mexico and I had got in the habit of giving the carcasses to the chickens.  They love that sort of thing and would strip it clean.  Grouper are large fish with a lot of wasted meat on them.  Would throw the skeletons in the freezer and give them one a day.  We fish quite a lot so they were getting one almost every day.  I noticed after awhile that the eggs started to have a fishy taste.  Now I have to limit it to no more than two carcasses a week and at that the eggs are fine.  There is nothing like real free range eggs.  Here is a picture of true free range egg from my birds as opposed to store bought.  You can see how deep and rich orange the yolk is compared to the yellow factory farm eggs.  They are also lower in cholesterol and more nutritious. 








OK, now here we go off topic!  Along with the (working on it) dream for acreage to expand the vineyard and put the figs in-ground is a chicken coop stocked with laying hens (already have them named)!!

Traveling down country roads we saw a fresh egg sign.  JD, on command, turned the wheel, and there was a cooler outside a gate with a sign to put $3.00 in the mailbox for a dozen free range eggs.  Done deal!  They looked exactly like yours WillisC!  They tasted delicious!  We have 4 eggs left, and then back to that country road again.  They put their phone number on that egg crate, and I'm going to see if I can get my layers from them.


That's a great idea for the figs - I'm thinking if there is a way I can do something like that hmmmmmmmmmm....

That's one of the things I dream(ed) about - having chickens!

Wills. You've mentioned two things that I miss. Free range eggs and fresh fish from the gulf. Not necessarily combined though :) .

I used to keep chickens and let them free range. The eggs do have a richer taste than store bought. I haven't had chickens for years though. Lost too many to local dogs and other predators. If I ever do it again I will have to keep them penned up full time.

When I lived in Naples, I would go fishing at the pier sometimes. Occasionally I would bring back a Red Fish, Snook, or Snapper. There's nothing like fresh caught saltwater fish.

I miss my chickens, I had 7, 6 different varieties. The Buff Orpington was the freindliest one, I had to coop her whenever I was digging for planting, otherwise she would hop in the hole constantly.

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