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my thoughts on Paradiso Gene.

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Originally Posted by rafaelissimmo
Pete Did you try to email the lady that wrote the article? She implied that she had received cuttings. She may be easier to track down than he is. I may go back to Philadelphia to buy more in August, will keep u posted at that time.


Which article is being referenced here? 

picky is a guy, and messy is a girl. they have one email addy fir both. when i wrote them, picky replied. he was picky.

i have a new lead and the response was much more positive. will see what comes out of it. whole idea is to compare and preserve his tree.

There was a time that the 'only' known USA 'Paradiso' (aka., Heaven) fig came from Gene_DC.
It should be (and is the default) of the Green(skin)/Red(pulp) kind of fig.
It seems that nowadays there are 'other' Paradiso figs going around.

gorgi, i should be able to tell this yr if Paradiso Bronze VS and Paradiso Nero are same as Paradiso Gene. have them in 1 gal.. i just wish i know which one if Nero and which is Bronze. i mixed the cuttings by mistake.. 

Pete (or anyone),  Would you happen to know if the Paradiso on Jon's list is the same as "Paradiso Gene"?  Thanks

as far as i know, gene sent Paradiso to jon and USDA/UCD. not sure if current Paradiso is from gene or not 

It has been a little over a year since I commented on my Paradiso.  Out of all the green figs out there.  This fig is definitely a 10 in my book.  Over the years, I was able to obtain one of Giovanni's Paradiso and boy to I treasure it!  And it does favor mine.  This Paradiso fig is one of the best.

do you actually have a clone of his tree? I am local to him and have been thinking about seeing if I can get in touch with him about cuttings or if anyone has his clones available.

He is almost impossible to reach and his tree was badly damaged the last two winters. Would love to know if you can reach him.

I'll see what I can do. My Fiancee is a Italian south philly native and everyone from the old Italian neighborhood all knows everybody there, so probably wont be too hard. very large but a very close knit community. 

I did find the location of the tree, I went to go by this morning to see if Giovanni was tending to his tree, to see if I could discuss things with him, and see if it were possible to acquire a cutting and unfortunately the tree has been cut back severely almost looks as if it started from the roots again either this year or the year before maybe. not even recognizable compared to the articles and pictures, I saw a few main trunks at most 4 feet tall. 

Chris:Of course the tree is now at 4 foot tall,that is the result of the last 2 Winters,harsh and prolonged Cold.
I have trees that were 12 foot in 2013 and now they measure 4 foot ,EX :Atreano.

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Herman do you prefer your trees in the ground opposed to pots? I am doing pots as of now because of fear of our winters, but everything I see in the ground gets so much larger faster. 

Is not that I prefer them in ground,it is that I have a true way to test for adaptability in cold climates like NJ.
Fig trees are not suppose to grow in zone 6 ,but some rare varieties,are stubborn to survive and ripe fruits here and most are not.
I would quote the best adapted to adverse climatic conditions,i have:
Malta Black,ripe early ,produce fruits growing from soil level every time,starting with first or second leaf there will be an incipient fruit.
After 2 years of onslaught frosty climate,some of my "Keeper" cultivars,were refusing to form fruits early in June,this year,but,:
Malta Black is loaded with fruits,in Fact the old original plant and the other 3 younger plants are loaded.
If i had them in containers i would have never know how they perform in cold Winters,because then all of them,are inside ,so all perform the same!

I also grow in ground because of necessity,as I can not handle moving large containers in and out,having ,had back surgery.
Of course your situation could be different,so if you can grow in containers good for you.
Fig trees in containers produce incipient fruits earlier in the Spring,and also can keep Breba fruits ,till ripe so you will have earlier ripe fruits every time.!
I hope this answer your question

Best Regards

appreciate it Herman thank you 

I'm starting to pull my trees out of the ground and just keep them in pots.  Our 5 degree winters over the past 2 years really took a toll on my trees not winterized.  Growing figs in 27g self watering pots seem to work best for my climate.  My large Paradiso was winterized this past winter and this year I only got to taste brebas.  It's not in a SWP yet but the 15g pot that its in is just full of roots.  Will be root pruning it this Fall.  

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