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Got this fig from a friend who is moving back to Portugal, probably this winter.
She is not sure what kind it is but is looking for the label,
It is a very productive plant.
Ripened lots of figs even in this lousy summer we had. Even with the rain we have had in the past few days, the figs will dry on the tree, had two when I picked it up, and they are very tasty.  I would rank them in quality on par with VDB.
No evidence of figs splitting or souring.

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Very nice tree, thanks for sharing.

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Posted Reply with quote  #3 
Good looking figs.  Hope you get an ID on it.  =)
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It's a nice healthy looking tree.  It looks a lot like the San Pietro figs that Joe Morle sells.  Did you look at his website?

http://www.figtrees.net/
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Perhaps Vista Mission?  Some say VdB and VM are the same and some don't.
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Steve, do you think the leaves look like Vista?  I haven't seen one before
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The plant is about 4 or 5 years old.
and the leaves do not look like the leaves on my vdb.
taste is not same as vdb, just similar in quality, in intensity, complexity, maybe better, since the flavour did not seem washed out by all the rain we have been having.
I culled a large number of very green figs off, in the hopes that a few that are changing colour may still ripen.
if so I will post a pic of ripe one.... the two I ate at her place were very red on inside and very sweet, outside kind of greyish purple brown.

and the leaves do resemble the San Pietro leaves on the link you provided Meghan.  is San Peitro the same as san pedro types, breba types like dersert king? just wondering.
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On second look, probably not VM.  I enlarged the photos and now doubt that it may be VM.  At normal view the leaves have a resemblance to VM leaves Jon has posted on the Variety page.
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Grant, I'm not sure on that.  I had read that they are different figs and Joe said they produce several crops so I don't think it's going to be like Desert King.   This is my first year growing one, so I won't get figs till next year.
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My friend has not found the tag.
but the fig is from Portugal,
and as far as she remembers it is a Pingo De Mel.


all the pics and descriptions of Pingo De Mel that I have seen are of
a light coloured fig.  So maybe this is something new.
or maybe not, maybe just a name.
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Its not unusual for a fig to go by one name in one country and another name here. 
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it's a few days from ripe, but tried it anyway.
cold weather coming

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Possibly "Olho de Perdiz" (trans. 'Eye of Partridge')--has a distinct red eye.
http://www.cotr.pt/documentos/FolhetoFigueira.pdf
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Thanks Rick,
that would be neat if it was Olho de Perdiz.
that would be something new, unique, rare, lol my chance to make millions.
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That's interesting.  Partridge Eye is a parent of UCR 187-25.  It also was panned by the guy who wrote the major reference work on figs, forget his name, didn't do well in Riverside CA, I guess.
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Does this fig drip honey when ripe?
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That is a nice looking fig.  Interestingly enough, my granddaughters spotted a tree with limbs hanging over a parking lot.  It's a big, old tree.  I couldn't identify it, either.  But it looks an awful lot like this one.  Kids said the figs were really good.    My area had a lot of old Portuguese people who settled in many years ago, so maybe it's a similar tree.
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It's definitely not a pingo de mel, seen quite few of those in Portugal and they're green/yellowish.
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Knowing you are in Canada,those figs will not color properly,not having a strong enough sunlight,,so my opinion is that the color of fruits if grown in warmer climates will be purple - black.
If the above is true,then looking at the leaves,and the eye color ,plus the shape of the fruits,the above fig,in my opinion is what UCD ,call , Ischia Black.
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Hi Grant,
I always listen to what Vasile says. If it is Ischia Black, you hit the jackpot.
Congratulations and good luck.
You will have many new friends very soon
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I do have this fig thanks to Grant, I also have Ischia Black my personal Opinion is that they are not the same they have different leaves also Black Ischia has red leaf stems and buds this unk portuguese fig grant has I have not noticed any redness on the plant at all buds and leaf stems always remain green.

closest ID I have come across so far is this what do you think grant ?
http://figblog.binhoster.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Peicho-de-Reina-1.jpg


This is what my black ischia looked like this year grown in Canada
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 I have no idea what it is.

Nelson,the link you provide does look a lot like  it,
unfortunately I had no ripe figs this year to compare,  but the one last year was much redder inside than the one in the link
the leaves and outside colour was same, a day or so from ripe,  but they disappeared one day/night., so I do not know what inside looks like.
The ones I had last year when the plant was given to me had dried on the tree, so no comparison.
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Grant I got to enjoy 1 that ripened on mine. Many more did not but hopefully next year I'll get to sample more. The one I did eat I thought was very good.
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Glad
  you liked it, Tyler.
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OK Nelson,if you have both and you compared them,what can i say,I admit,I am wrong this time.
The only detail i missed is  the growing tips on the mistery fig is not enough dark ,compared to Ischia Black.
Any way if the mistery fig produced good tasty ripe fig,this past ,difficult season in Canada,it is a very valuable cultivar.
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