To Jason:Your Nero Barnisotte ,is similar to Belleclare Nero Barnisotte ,which is not Nero,Nor Barnisotte but a Mystery Brown Fig.

Here are better pics of the plant showing leaf variations pics were taken on aug. 24th.

The answer is:You do not have a Burnsotte identical to UC Davis specimen.
UCDavis Specimen is so superior tasting,but so hard to grow here in NE due to FMV,and cold Winters.
I had your Burnisotte and it made brownish figs ,medium size,and just average tasting.
Also had the UCD Plant.

Thank you Vasile, I had a feeling it wasn't specially since unripe fruits resemble Celeste looks like it will go in the garbage pile.

Hey, Nelson

Is this the same plant that I cuttings got from you this past December?

Hey Ruben, no no cuttings I sent you were from my bourjassote noire wich came directly from europe. I think I have pics somewhere of the leaves completely different.

WoW,   I am so confused! after the last  posting about  differences and variant's in  the   Negronne??True or False  thread . 

Thanks, Nelson. Just wondering. It would be cool to see those pictures and compare them to Snaglpus' since they are topic-related. Thanks again!

Hey Ruben here is the only pic I found so far from July 2010

hmm...doesn't much resemble the Barnissotte leaves. Has it fruited yet?

Hey Ruben, My Bourjassotte noire has not fruited for me yet its origins are from http://www.figuiers.com/plants-de-figuiers.html  you can see pics of fruits there.

Bourjassote noire fruits are much more flatened than the barnissote from ucdavis.

Last month, I drove all the way from Charlotte to Opelousas (a 13hr drive).  I went to see Mr Robin....got a few figs from him and stopped by to see Dalton.  I got a few figs from him including one Barnissotte.  I wanted one in 3gal but settled for the 1gal size.  He has Barnissotte listed as Nero, and Brogiotto Nero on his website but I don't think they are the same tree.
 
Today I talked to Dalton.  He's sold out of the Barnissotte.  The one at UCD has a very rich, excellent sweet flavor.  Looking forward to tasting it again this year.

Nelson,

Thanks for that link. Aside from the color of the fruit, that Bourjassote Noire bears no resemblance to Barnissotte though they are supposed to be synonymous.

@Dennis,

Brogiotto Nero and Barnissotte are supposed to be synonymous. Nero and Barnissotte are not. Even DNA testing by UCD did not find a direct relation between those two.

Ruben I agree, Its confusing and frustrating at the same time. I do know they are all synonyms for each other including violette de sollies and parisienne both those seem to look like the bourjassote noire and have flatish figs. 

heres another interesting post about this topic.

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Kathleen-Black-compared-to-NegronneVistaViolette-de-Bordeaux-5691832

@Ruben, Great!  That's good news to my ears!  I just think figs are amazing!

My 2 cents:
Both Nero (Black) and Bianco (White) are problably the most mis-used
in fig name descriptions e.g., being (plain) Black,  Black.xyz or (my preferred naming) xyz.Black.
One example: I do have a  "Nero" from BelleClare (BC#5);
its skin does not show any 'blackness' at all here in NJ. It is more like of a light-brown color!
{desc: 5.  NERO (Italy) (a) large, purple-red (wine color) dark center (2 crops)}
And, and it definetly is not a Barnisotte...

thanks George. I like your naming convention. I created a database for my fig trees. And I started naming all my figs exactly the same way. I would love to see pics of your BC#5 this summer. thanks,

The two UCDavis Barnissotte cuttings I started in 2010 are still hanging in there with new growth so maybe the larger one will give me a fig this year.

Durio Nursery listing:.

barnisotte [nero / brogiotto nero] - This fig comes to us from Italy. It has large, late ripening, reddish black figs of better quality than those of 'Black Mission'. The rich, fairly sweet flesh is red-amber and of very good to excellent flavor. Unfortunately, the eye is medium sized and open. Very good fresh but poor when stewed as it breaks up when stirred. Needs heat for best taste. Well adapted to the South and Southwest. Fruit shape turbinate-pyriform sometimes oblique with a broad apex. Leaf has a cordate base and 5 lobes with the middle one being spatulate and the others latate.

Durio has a very good reputation, right?

I have a 'Nero' and a 'Brogiotto Nero'. Two different sources. I have very little info on Nero other than the name. Had main crop last year that were more reddish than dark, like a maroon.

Dom, long time no see, I feel like!

Yeah I haven't had much to add lately. 

Well, was thinking about you a few times recently, especially when I bumped the 'red terminal bud' thread.  Good to see you posting again.

Bumping up an old thread now that I've tasted both Nero and Barnissotte.  And my prediction is that these are not the same fig.  My Nero came from JF&E.  Its a medium size fig, a tad bit long and jet black when ripe.  Very sugary sweet fig!  The ripe figs on my tree has a pinkish white pulp color.

Barnissotte on the other hand is a large fat fig, rich tasting and in my climate its a reddish black color. Also very sweet.  Both are not that hardy for my climate.  Both are excellent keepers.  It does irritate me with the name of these figs.  I know "NOIRE'  and "NERO" means black but depending on your climate, your black fig may be a brownish reddish color.  Those at UCD are so good....they will make you slap your momma!

Dennis,
What "Nero" is yours? Brogiotto, 600m, else?