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New Jersey area:Desert King ,close to ripe!


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Congratulations Herman, bountiful tree even in pot culture. You are one month ahead of my zone. Enjoy the delicious DK. My in-ground DK tree has many figs too. So far DK is the most reliable variant for my zone. Hopefully in the near future I could add Dauphine, Grantham's Royal & Filanciano to this list. Other variants for reliable breba  productions are Latarrula, Barbillone & Longue d'Aout  but unfortunately they are not in the same league with DK in terms of productivity.

Yes It has 30 Brebas,and the rest are main crop.
I am sure first one will be  fully ripe on July 1st for sure.

Nice pictures Herman. That's twice the amount of breba that I have on our Bayernfigie Violleta. Which has it's last summer to convince me not to top work it over. I have already grafted one of  the Gino's cuttings, you sold to  me to it.


We were comparing it's Breba crop to Bass's Brooklyn White's breba. Which only has two breba left. So it is on the list to be top worked also. Although Bass says it will get better?? So we will give it this summer to convince us, not to top work it.

Is there a reason why you have allowed the main crop of figs to remain on the your Desert king plant?

Bob

Bob:I already explained Why ,I leave main crop on,but will explain again.
This fig have to complete it's cycle (annual),in order to produce normal Breba next year.
The main crop figs grow to a certain size and then they fall out.
On every peduncle spot,very soon after the main crop fell out naturally,grows a new embryo,(november),and these embryos will grow to maturity as breba in Spring 2012.
Removing main crop earlier could trow fig out of Balance and form Breba in August,and they will be half grown during winter ,totally non cold hardy,and all of them will drop off during late winter and early Spring.
In this case no crop will result in coming,Spring 2012.
I also will mention,that the spots where the present Breba are atached,will not produce any embryos ever again.

Hi Herman,

You evidently think this tree is worth keeping it even though it's breba only.  What does it taste like?

noss

The Best That a BREBA fig can taste.
It is also the only fig I know that will have ripe fruits on July 1st,here in NJ,without to
employ a greenhouse trough the winter and to push it ahead.
It was wintering in my attached Garage .
For Breba fruits Desert King,is the King,I have no doubt about it.

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Herman,

Is your Desert King grown in a pot or in ground?

The pix say it all,you can see there it is in a large pot.
It is the only plant of about 100 cultivars,that is in pot,but it is the only sure way to protect the Embryos,trough the winter.
This fig produces embryos in November ,and not in June,like main crop figs do.

To grow DK in pot culture & have 30 figs says a lot about this variety. That said, DK is not a small size. Its a biggie.

@Bob - I almost got rid of my Brooklyn Wht. Now it produces very nice and flavouful fig for my zone. Better tasting than Stella. Breba is big. I hope productivity improves.

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Herman,

My mistake, I only enlarged the first pic and didn't notice the pot in the second pic. Can you tell us what you do for soil, amendments fertilizer etc?

Herman, I missed the post about why the main crop figs were left on the Desert King. 


Thanks for repeating it.

 It helped me in understanding more on how to have a breba fig in the north. It also, has maybe delayed me from top working my Bayernfigie Violetta. I may have inadvertently reduced the Violetta's ability to produce more breba figs. After the main crop of figs had formed on the Violetta, I pinched out all new growth and more then likely pinched out the next year's breba. So instead of having only 15 breba I may have been able to have at least twice that. 

Before I get back into testing the Violetta for breba taste, I know you were also testing it. How did you find the taste of Violetta's breba crop?

But, now with this additional information you have provided, I'm going to want a Desert King fig. Just when I thought I had all the fig plants we had room for.

Bob

Violetta had excellent tasting breba,but main crop,needs more heat than I and you have in our climate.
It also totally degenerated in about three years due to Fig mosaic virus,or non adaptation,here.
So I discarded it.

Fertilizer:Osmocote once in the Spring.
Potting soil: self made:from Old manure,perlite ,soil resulted from compost disintegration.
One third each.
Is doing great!.
It is 5 years old,so next Spring I will take it out of pot,and change the soil,and prune the roots.
Edit:I also mixed at least 8 cups of limestone in the potting soil and I added more every Spring,to be sure the mix is not acidic,or become so.

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Thanks Herman,

compost is such a great thing, never seem to be able to get enough of it!!

I have to update,this post:
Desert King needs a couple of more days to ripe properly,so I did not take it out today.
Here is a pix taken yesterday:

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Herman ,
When you root prune your 5 year old DK next year in late Winter/earlySpring, do you expect to have no breba crop that season ?

I have no ideea if I will loose the Breba Next Year,because I never root pruned a Breba fig.
This is my first Breba I decided to take it in and out of garage every year,and I never root pruned it yet.
I am sure it has a tone of roots in the container(20gal),and they are encircling,so I will have to root prune next year.
I can see looking at top of container it is all a bundle of roots at this point.
I am going to minimally cut roots,only the encircling,and hope it will not drop Breba.

Okay, Herman. You know I'm going to ask, What type of flavor profile does the breba Desert King fruit have, as grown at your place, in a pot?


Bob

Robert:Desert King has also Mulberry flavor and very sweet.
Close to Florea,in Breba flavor and sweetness,but much larger.

drivewayfarmer:I was thinking about your question,about losing Breba and,I am worried about that, if I prune roots in the Spring.
I am seriously thinking to root prune at another time,,specifically after the main crop drops,on about September 1st.
At this point there is not embryos on the tree,and so I am thinking that is the best time.
Also if done on Sept 1,the tree has time to settle in and recover somewhat from the shock.
If anyone think I will make a fatal mistake let me Know,because that is all about the forum is for.
We learn from each other and nobody knows all,!!!!.


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Herman,

The very first fig I ever owned I grew in a pot for a dozen years or so. I routinely root pruned after a few years of growing. It was a dark fig. I was not given the name of it, but at this point believe it may have been Bissiri Dark. It was given to me as a cutting in water by a co worker at the time. It produced breba and main crop even after I top pruned for shape. I kept it about 3 to 4 foot tall and wide like a bonsai, but it produced well for such as small tree. Didn't matter what time of year I root pruned it or top pruned it, it just kept going and producing. I have no idea if Dessert King is as resilient, but I fairly tortured that tree and it didn't seem to blink. That was many years ago when I was experimenting with lots of different plants. Anyway, I think you will be safe pruning in fall or spring.

Barry  

Thanks Barry,it is assuring,your testimony,I am going to root prune in September,it is decided now.
Edit:today July 6  !
Desert King finally got some figs ripe .
Upon tasting I found them mediocre tasting this year,and I think I know why:
The tree has 30 breba fruits and in the pot can't supply all nutrients to produce good tasting fruits,in large numbers.
Last Year it had 7 Breba and they were delicious,super tasty and flavorful.
So I concluded that ,growing in the pot,is not the way to get DK,breba in Large numbers,but only if they are thinned to about a dozen or less.
Growing in the ground is the right way to grow Desert King,but it takes a lot of winter protection(profesional,havy duty),just like Adriano is doing in Canada,with good results.
Here is a pix of the fruits today.
They did not develop deep red interior color nor flavor and sugar.
So this year so far dissapointing results,but it is something to learn from!

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