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Hi my name is Naeem and I am from Ellicott City MD zone 7A. I joined this forum in December 2016.  This is my first post and I am starting this by saying big thanks to forum member " FiggyFrank " who answer each and every question I have and some more with great suggestions.  This forum has all the great information you will ever need to grow figs and thankful for that too.  

I tasted one fresh fig last year and thought I should have a plant or two.  Bought few cuttings from forum members.  I started 35 cuttings on December 28th and on January 21st all the cuttings have good roots and some with roots on both side which I cut into half and make them two.  Now its four weeks and I want to show week by week how these looking.  Since this is my first post I have to learn a lot about adding pictures so please be with me. I am also rooting about 35 more cuttings in coco which I started on Feb 4th  to Feb 10th which are not quite ready.  

 This is the coco coir I used


After about 20 days some cuttings have more roots like this and some less looking like this

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This is how I put my cuttings in plastic shoe box and cover with coco

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I put these in a coco and perlite mix of 50/50 in 18 oz clear cups with holes on the sides and bottoms this picture was take on 01-21-2017 first day in plastic bin

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After one week progress this picture was taken after one week on 01-28-2017

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After another week progress this picture was taken 02-04-2017

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After another week of  progress this picture was taken 02-11-2017

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After another week of  progress this picture was taken today 02-18-2017

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Another week of progress this picture is taken today 02-25-2017

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Another week of progress this picture is taken today 03-04-2017

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Another week of progress this picture is taken today 03-12-2017

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Another week of progress this picture is taken today 03-19-2017

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Some cuttings progress this picture was taken today 04-8-2017

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Few things what I did to summarize this

Coco coir was moist but not too wet this is very important
temperature was exact  75 degree F in plastic box in coco coir

When I transferred these from coco to cup in perlite coco 50/ 50 mix  room temperature was 66 degree F in my basement but I have to put heating mat under plastic bin with temperature from 76 to 81 degree F with lights off  and light on. Humidity stays between 75 to 90 I do often remove cover to water or just letting fresh air in.

Water with spray bottle once a week 

No fertilizer or rooting hormone used up to today

Lights stays on for 14 hours 

You may ask any question if you have or suggestions 

I do not know how many will make to plants I have not lost any cuttings up  to today but have two cuttings with wilting leaves and still watching these.  

Updated 03-12-2017 

 I have uploaded two more pictures for last two weeks to see weekly progress. So far I have lost nine cuttings out of 35 due to wilting leaves, I am still searching for a reason.
 Only thing which I could say thin cuttings use all the energy on roots and do not have left anything to keep going.  If somebody know or have anything in their experience please share it.

 Updated 03-19-2017

Everything looking good except some wilting cuttings please see today's picture.  Also I am exposing cuttings to room temperature while leaving bin cover off for
30 minutes with no set back and I will increase time slowly. Also cuttings are getting misting once a day to adjust to room temperature.  



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Naeem,
Your cuttings look great! I grew up in Ellicott City and now live up the road in Frederick.
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Looking great. Welcome to the forum.
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It looks like you have the process down!  Nothing beats experience.  You are doing great!
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Naeem,

I agree with Kane.  Your cuttings looks great!! Wish mine looked as good.  Maybe my next batch.

Angela


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Thanks Kane

I am glad somebody nearby growing figs too.

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Thanks Sas
I am blessed that forum member are very welcoming to new members and encouraging.

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Frank is a big part of this sucsess  I can not do this without his advise period.  Thank you again Frank
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Thanks Angela you will be successful too may by your cuttings are taking a little more time then mine.
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That's impressive you make it look like you are an old hand at this....
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wow
great job!
you cuttings are making progress.  from cutting to actively growing trees.


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Frank is a big part of this sucsess  I can not do this without his advise period.  Thank you again Frank


My pleasure, Naeem.

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Thanks ohjustaguy may be its just a luck this is the first time I am rooting fig cuttings. 
But I am growing vegetables from last fifteen years.
 

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Thanks torontofig I am so happy that you called these trees which I am hoping for.
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They looks awesome Naeem, good job.
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Looks good so far. Best of luck to you.
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Thank You very much Ateeq.  Just learning its the first step and see how it goes.
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Thanks ADelmanto sure I can use all the luck.  
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[8rOnYTuVGkA]  Coconut substrate has given good results in rooting cuttings.
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Naeem,

Congrats on your rooting success!

Also, you have succeeded in making the best picture posting I have seen on this forum in a long time. How did you do it?

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Thanks Vladis I have not tried anything else but coco coir is working good for me.
You cuttings showing great roots.

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Thanks cjccmc
For picture it is very easy and I used a free service http://postimg.org  You do not have to register or open an account
Choose image from your computer or your device 
After that it will gives you different URL with codes please select 7th   "  Hotlink for forums   " this is your picture hosting url 
When you want to post a picture just copy that url in your message and your picture will appear like mine. Please let me know
if you seen any problem.  

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Welcome!  Congratulations on your success!
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For picture it is very easy and I used a free service http://postimg.org  You do not have to register or open an account
Choose image from your computer or your device 
After that it will gives you different URL with codes please select 7th   "  Hotlink for forums   " this is your picture hosting url 
When you want to post a picture just copy that url in your message and your picture will appear like mine. Please let me know
if you seen any problem.  


Thanks Naeem, it worked except that I had to use "Direct Link" instead of " Hotlink for forums".

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Will try that stuff this year, when I uncover my Swiss fig tree, hoping the base gets big enough to go unprotected here in CT. was scare to try until I finally rooted a back up, if it don't die in the spring have no problem with other figs I have. Only the Swiss is hard to root, unless the hardly bark makes it tough for the cold, but also tough to root, its not what i'm doing wrong, because I have other figs rooting right next to the Swiss cuttings, and the others are shooting roots, and growing fine It's a large fruit too
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I am sure this will work for you oldguy128. It worked for about 20 types of figs for me.
 
 
 

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Welcome Naeem,

Those are impressive results.

Before I read your post I just ordered some Coco Coir....I am so glad you went the smart route.

I am using perlite and composted cow manure, and I wanted something better..we also have fungus gnat issues because of some potting soil we are growing hot peppers and herbs in...


I have no idea what took me so long, but your post is proof that coir is the best way forward.




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Thanks Lewi.
You can not go wrong with coco coir just make sure it is not too wet. I have not tried anything else because this is my first time
rooting figs cuttings. Also in about two months I have not seen any fungus gnats.  

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Hi, Naeem.

Congratulations on your rooting success and a thank you for the Post Image link.  It's so much easier than Photo Bucket that I was using.

Question for you.  In the fifth picture in your first post, can you tell me the name of the cutting in the second row from the top, second cup from the right?  It looks like something I have.

Thanks

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Thanks Cheryl

This cutting is an unknown green fig .  These two cutting one in first row second from right ( desert king ) and this unknown cutting both have wilting leaves as I mentioned in summary above.
I moved these two cuttings in other bin to give more light and see if both can stay alive but both lost their leaves still not dead yet. I am very happy with the results so far.
I hope this answer your question.  

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Ahhh, the ever present unknown, huh.  I've got a few of those too ;-)

Hope they survive.

Thanks

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I just added today's picture in post #1 last picture (02-25-2017) for update on my cuttings so far everything is going great.
I have four cuttings which lost their leaves but still alive.  Thanks 

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I use a lot of coco coir as well. You did a great job!
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Welcome.  Your plants look fantastic! 

Love that you showed the progress.

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Thanks SuperMario1 can not go wrong with coco.  
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Thanks Shirley just learning and documenting.
Maybe it will help somebody.

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Updated 03-12-2017 

 I have uploaded two more pictures for last two weeks to see weekly progress. So far I have lost nine cuttings out of 35 due to wilting leaves, I am still searching for a reason. 
 Only thing which I could say thin cuttings use all the energy on roots and do not have left anything to keep going.  If somebody know or have anything in their experience please share it

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What soil did you pot them in...if using coir to pot, you need to use fertilizer/ nutrients...a very weak solution of course.
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Most of the time when I notice a problem with a cutting - not growing/wilting leaves - it is due to the potting mix being too wet.  I usually repot the cutting in new soil and put a clear baggy over it.  Sometimes it's just too late.  In one case the cutting had rotted and the roots were no longer attached to the cutting (the cutting originally had great roots!). 

I am not 100 % positive since I don't use a bin to hold my cuttings but I think there is too much moisture in your plastic container.  


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Thanks Lewi I thought about using fertilizer and may start with some cuttings.  
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Thanks Angela I am very careful with water may be give like a spoon at a time but could be a reason will further watch it.
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A cutting with wilting leaves might have better luck in reduced light. My reasoning is that the plant is trying too hard to use the light energy and it is not a particularly vigorous cutting. Try putting it in a low light area and see if things improve. 
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What soil did you pot them in...if using coir to pot, you need to use fertilizer/ nutrients...a very weak solution of course.


Lewi,

I have heard to use weak fert from some people and absolutely no fert from others. Do you have a reasoning behind yours? I would like to gain some knowledge on that. 

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Naeem, welcome to the forum and good work with your fig propagation!  I'm also in Maryland zone 7a and live just outside of Barnesville in northern Montgomery County.
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Thanks livetaswim06 I will try few with reduced light too.
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Thanks Steve and glad to see some body else is growing figs nearby.
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Lewi,

I have heard to use weak fert from some people and absolutely no fert from others. Do you have a reasoning behind yours? I would like to gain some knowledge on that. 


My take on it is: weak nutrient mix only after potting up, not while rooting.Though some do mix into the coir ONCE before rooting.

My understanding that Coco Coir needs nutrients-fertilizer when using as a potting soil, as it is not a true soil.

Put a cut off sports drink bottle (with holes on top) on the cuttings in the daytime to keep humidity up, and more important, to filter sunlight! Take off at night so the moisture is not excessive.

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My take on it is: weak nutrient mix only after potting up, not while rooting.Though some do mix into the coir ONCE before rooting.

My understanding that Coco Coir needs nutrients-fertilizer when using as a potting soil, as it is not a true soil.

Put a cut off sports drink bottle (with holes on top) on the cuttings in the daytime to keep humidity up, and more important, to filter sunlight! Take off at night so the moisture is not excessive.


I have heard that having no nutrients in the mix encourages root development as the plant is desperately searching for food. And then once you see mild effects of low nutrition deficiency in a month you can add mild solution of fertilizer. I would be interested in trying it both ways when I have the space.

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Home Depot sells coco coir in a 1.5 cu ft bag for $20.00.
Black Magic, I believe.  Anyone care to offer a review on their product? 

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Home Depot sells coco coir in a 1.5 cu ft bag for $20.00.
Black Magic, I believe.  Anyone care to offer a review on their product? 


I purchased ProMix HPCC for $40 per 3.5 cu ft. You can try hydro shops, especially those tailored to growing of, perfectly legal in WA,CA, illegal substances. Those shops tend to move a TON of product and prices are low, and they prefer coco so it might be a good fit. If you like pure coco they had that too. I spoke with a few shops in the LA area and all seemed to be well stocked. Only downside is they have no idea what works well for figs and/or citrus in my case. 

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