No, I'm a firm believer but for arguments sake we need to stick to figs for the fun of it. That's our forum. But one thing is plainly clear to me, I now live in 10A which used to be 9B, same house only the climate is getting warmer. I started my mango trees in pots and planned on them staying in 25 gallon pots and moving them to protection on frosty nights, since my 20+ foot in-round trees were killed back to the bud years ago during several nights of 22-30 degree temperatures. But now I am rethinking my plans. They are going in the ground because I feel it will be really rare to see those low temperatures again. Maybe one day I will be able to grow mangos on my property in North Alabama, just kidding, but maybe my grandchildren will. I moved to Florida from New Hampshire in 1976 after many days of shoveling snow and getting stuck in waist deep snow. I was tired of carrying sand/salt and snow shovel in the trunk knowing it was going to be used....a lot. It snowed a few months later, January 1977 at my new home in Labelle South Florida. But I still love NH....in the spring, summer and fall. I have visited NH in January 2014, that week was super warm for NH, only wore a long sleeve shirt and a sweater. In Southwest Florida, this last week, we have experienced record breaking days, 86-88 degrees. Great for figs. I believe we have been experiencing more and more extreme weather conditions. But for the sake of keeping this a fig forum.... How bout them figs. Okay Greg, do I get something for agreeing with you, be a good sport just one more time.