Few pics of my NdC's leaves taken last month. This afternoon I will be flying back home, there I'll take more detailed pics and will post them either tonight or tomorrow.

Some info, this is the 2nd season that I have this tree and so far I have not been impressed with its main crop taste, it may improve with time. The main crop on my tree has virtually no neck, figs are dark purple with pink/red pulp inside.

2nd pic. is one of its juvenile leaf.


Navid.

Thanks for posting the pixes,Navid.
I would like to ask,where is it grown, you have 2 residences: Ma or Al
If grown In Ma,then you are not impressed because this tree needs a little more Summer warmth,especially when young to produce super tasty fruits.
Second :If you grow it in pot ,In  both places it will never develop full flavor,or be comparable with a fig in ground.
Large fruited fig tree never develop full Flavor in pot.
Small fruited like Violette de Bordeaux ,and Gino's Black are close to their potential fruit quality in pot.

Your best chances to harvest a full flavored fruit out of this cultivar:
Grow in ground with adequate Winter protection,till tree gets 7 Years old.
Grow in pot,but let the roots go down in the soil trough the drain holes.
That is the one sure way to find out how good the cultivar taste.
Your fig is very similar to Kathleen Black I have but it has Fig mosaic virus,or is in stress ,which mine is not,and so that is another cause Why my fruits taste excellent and your do not.Here is my KB, in ground this Spring

Thanks Navid.

Dan
Semper Fi-cus

Herman and Dan, You are welcome. To Herman’s questions, I keep all of my trees at WV where my house is but due the field of the work that I am in, I also live in Birmingham and Cambridge (no trees there).

Navid i in "most friendly" way i disagree about that stress.
 I feel thats classic Fmv in those leaves you showed.
Here is 3 examples .
Please look carefully at the pictures and no hard fellings if you disagree on what is what i will understand.

Small plant is Kalamata Black when very very young and first starting to display FMV , its hard to see but if you look real close at that top leaf  and at its left and right lobe you will see it. The plant is big now and displays it well.

Here is mission and more obvious in all the leaves in picture but leaf at 1 o'clock is the most obvious to the untrained eye.

I dont mean to sound like broken record but FMV will hide at times but it will be back like - kinda like what Arnold says in his movies.
"I'll be back"   ; )

Click To Enlarge the pictures - there sized to see the clarity , to big and they would blur.

I grew my Kathleen Black for the firs year in pot,went trough the winter in My underground shelter,then in the Spring I planted it in the place is now and that is it.
Of course it made a couple of fruits in pot but they were mediocre.
It was not very precocious but it did made enough fruits for the size of tree so I did not have to thin any fruits out.
I have experience with figs in pot,from the past,and know they are never producing like fig in ground when it come about taste and flavor.

Herman,
Please tell us about the Kathleen's Black in ground. How much portetction do you give it? Is it in a sheltered area, how much if any die back etc. Thanks

Herman,

Earlier today I spoke to my colleague who gave me this tree. He did tell me that he kept his in a pot for two years and the figs tasted bland, then he planted it in ground and in its 2 yr in ground taste improved significantly. If my in-ground fig trees don't die (1st season in ground and all will be protected) then next April this one going to be planted in ground.



Leaves pics from today.

NdC's main crop. It was picked on Aug. 27th.



Navid.

Navid,

Scale of 1 to 10.
What do you give it?

I built a plywood box,over the tree and I filled it with leaves last year.
That is it.
Results no die back .
To Rafed:The taste could not be what it needs to be because the leaves positively show the tree is in stress and the Fig mosaic virus is affecting the tree negatively.
The taste will be greatly improved when fig will have normal leaves,to feed the plant.
My Jupiter grapes lost all leaves because of downy mildew,from so much rain,and so the fruits stop maturing,and are slowly shrinking,and sour,and will never get ripe or sweet.
Why?:Because lack of leaves
So the health of leaves determine,the taste and flavor of fruits.
Edit note:
My tree also might have mosaic virus,but so far it doesn't show.
It suppresses the disease,and grows ,close to a healthy tree when in ground ,in good fertile soil.
Of course in this conditions it will produce better tasting fruits,I am sure.

Edit Note:Looking at the finish product,(Navid Noire de Caromb),I have no doubt in my mind that Gene Hosey,at East coast figs,site,was right,when he stated that Kathleen Black, might be Noire de Caromb.
That is why I am not looking for Noire de Caromb anymore,because if I get it the only difference will be the visual Fig mosaic virus ,it has,in contrast to Kathleen black which so far is totally healthy.

Here is my tree Today,for comparison,of leaves

Herman, when I got my Kathleen's Black from the person who found the tree. it had absolutely no FMV, what so ever. Or at least I could not detect any by looking at the leaves. 

Bob I have not seen any studies done about Fig mosaic cymptoms and how they come and go.
There must be only one serious reason the fig show Fig mosaic virus on Leaves and that is stress.
Stress for whatever reason:Being in pot,lack of nutrients,lack of root mass,before getting established,lack of water,cold damage,etc.
By the way:Sal Gene also had Fig mosaic symptoms when I got it from Gene Hosey,but now is also totally healthy.
Kathleen Black did not show any signs of FMV,from when I rooted the cutting,and is not showing now.
This is a complicated subjiect,and is hard to find the answer.
Sometime if I grow 5 cuttings from Sal (Gene strain),let say,the results are:
3 young plants show ,NO,FMV.
2 Young plants show FM virus.
Why:No explanation can be found.

Rafad,

I would give it a 7 1/2 on a 1 to 10 scale.

Plant it in ground right now if you want better figs next year.
The tree has to establish itself in the soil,and send it's root system far to gather nutrients.
Even if you plant it in ground next Spring,you will not get full flavored fruits because the tree will not be established.

Thanks Navid

7.5 is still good

It's funny how theses trees will have FMV on one limb and not the other. I usually chop off the affected ones. Or, if the whole tree has it then I chop it down or clip most of the leaves off.

Did this recently with my Madeliene De Deux and showing better leaves.

Hi Navid,

The conadria cuttings that you sent me arrived today. Thank you so much. Would you sell few cuttings of your Nore De Caromb in fall?

John

Herman, I would like to plant this tree in ground where a Persimmon tree is planted and relocate the Pers. tree to the other side of my property. By doing it now, I am afraid to lose the Pers. tree. You have more knowledge than me in fruit trees and their cultivation; do you think that the Pers. tree would survive this sudden shock (relocation) at this time of the year? Rafed, It could be better. This was the only tree in my collection this year that was continuously battling with FMV and Rust. Have never pinched off the leaves infected with FMV in past but I will give it a try. One thing that I have noticed is, none of the LSU verities that I have in my collection are/were infected with FMV in past or present. They all look perfectly healthy. Have you noticed the presence of FMV on any of your LSU trees?

Persimmon has tap root,sooo,you will have to dig a very deep hole to save the tree.
If you cut the tap root tree will die later.
It will not survive if you move persimmon now.
Moving it in the Spring,Maybe,it will survive.

Navid,

All my LSU variants are from this season and very small. But no, they don't show and signs of FMV as of yet.

Let hope they don't ever. LOL

Bump.

Any one with updates on NdC ?

hmm.. i'm not so sure NdC is same as KB. the leaves are not exactly same. neither does the figs. at least not with one posted here and KB that i have. my KB came from gene h.