Grasa
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My left over Adriatic fatties became cutting/root stock for many new varieties. Since Adriatic is a good survivor for our nasty cold windy and wet city, I am hoping they will carry their babies to full term. So far, I am lucky with this kind grafting.
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greenfig
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Interesting way to graft, I thought the rootstock must have some roots already. What is your success rate doing grafts like this?
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Grasa
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I have lost a few, not at the graft, but because the stupid gnats ate their roots, some although their roots were eaten, I was able to save the tip grafted and put into something else. Many said this is not possible, but it is. Specially with good fat cuttings like this. I let the cutting put out one bud, it helps being a nursing branch and the top seals in quite nicely inside the 'sweat chamber'. Overall, I saved many varieties, as the local grown varieties seem stronger and recover from the gnat attack.
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greenfig
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I like your way to save the better varieties! I have a lot wild figs growing in a local arroyo, I can make some fat cuttings from them. The wild ones are so strong that they grow anywhere under any conditions. I can probably send them through a mulcher and plant a fig forest just spreading the little pieces.
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FMD
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Grasa, you are the Da Vinci of fig grafting.
Talk about thinking out of the box!
Thanks for sharing your innovative techniques.
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Grassa, you are amazing. Would you mind posting detailed instructions on your technique?
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A hat's off to you and a high five. Please tell us how you do it!!!! Zone 8 South West TX
eithieus
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Great job grasa.
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Grasa
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they developed good roots and I planted them in gallon pots with regular yard soil, wood chips, bunny poo, compost and a good layer of styrofoam where the new roots will be emerging... and more soil and a little sprinkle of water. I put them in a large tub and covered with plastic, leaving just a little room to breathe as we had warmer days, and bring them inside at night.. this is their 3rd night and so far, they all look very good. But I know it is from the shuffle from cup to pots that I loose them...so, this new soil experiment may not be the best, but it is what I can do for them... way too many figs. I cannot afford this habit, so I have to try other means.
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mrforemark
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This really amazes me Grasa. Once the grafts are well established, do you then root the cuttings? Maybe I'm as much confused as amazed... Mark
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Grasa
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Mark, I put the fatties in to engage in the rooting, they sweat and form little nodes for root eyes, ( in about 10 days) that is when I graft the new babies and put them back in the sweaty chamber to continue the rooting process. in it, they sweat, and make bond(hopefully) at the graft. I struggle so much to make new varieties alive ( got gnats, under and overwatering, etc), that this seems to be working.. this is a large batch, shall report their progress. It is a fun project.
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oldvt
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Hi Grasa, How are your grafts doing,can you do an update,Rex.
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Grasa, I admire your work, it's more like art, I'm sure you'll be very famous if you keep up with it ;) I would like to see the progress of the grafts and weather or not the future fruits will be hybrids between two varieties or not. Keep up the good work.
greenfig
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I was inspired by the Grasa's photos and also tried something similar:http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/figfig-bark-graft-6364290 Both grafts took! One is still quite small but the other is about 1.5ft tall, both are alive and kicking. I am not sure is the rootstock decides who is the favorite baby here to provide the nutrients?
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Aaron4USA
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nice work "greenfig" keep up the good work:) I wander if the final result , the fruit, improves the taste somehow because of the rootstock. does any body know?
greenfig
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From what I know, the fruit quality/ taste remains the same but the vigor of the tree may change.
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Grasa
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Igor, I read that when you have more than one variety, you need to trim the one stronger and let the small face the sun more (don't let the tall shade the other, so, there is a balance. pinching words as it takes a while to branch out, allowing the small to catch up... from my multiples, only one has all the 3 alive and well, the others only one made, I guess that is still OK.
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greenfig
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I was thinking to start pinching when the spring comes. At the moment, the fig slowly goes dormant since it is outside, it is not growing now.
The dormancy is going to be short, we have 70-80F every day. I will update my thread once it starts actively to grow. I checked the buds today and they are still green and plump on both grafts!
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