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Oh no frost last night

Glad I took everything in, frost on the ground as we speak.
Hopefully the last of the season!

Global-Warming....I love the irony.

I could always rely on my uncanny sense-of-timing to start major root-pruning on my precious fig trees.  Three weeks ago when the temps were in the 70s, I decided to do a radical root-chop, and re-pot, figuring that the warm temps. would do good for my trees.  So the temps have plunged, and the weather is cold, rainy, and not great for the figs so far.  What happened to the Spring????

My trees just started to sprout new leaves, but now things have come to a screeching halt.  Trees are set-back by at least a month by root-pruning, and then cold temps.

That's my story, sad, but true.  I'm crossing my fingers.  I'll blow a vein if my "Atreano" dies!

Frank

@Lou,

Yes, most probably I will attend any 3rd NE fig-meet.
However, not knowing the exact time/place (yet), I cannot guaranty it.

Last year, a person first introduced himself as 'Lou'. For quite a while,
I thought it was you; but later he turned out to be a relative/friend
of another FF member (I thing it was Vito?).

George,

Bass told me that story. I talked with him yesterday and it seems like he is leaning on having it in June hoping that the weather will be sunny and bright. Less chance of the cold ruining the event.

I think he is leaning to having it on a Sunday.

If I make it I look for you.

 

This morning the temp here got to 30 degrees and not the 27 they predicated. We did get heavy frost but the heavy winds they called for did not materialize. All my trees are safe all over the garage floor.

Lou


We got heavy frost here (near Binghamton NY, zone 5) last night too.  We pulled our trees in to the laundry room even (have only 6 trees), rather than the garage (which is unheated).  The trees are pretty leafy now (way earlier than most years) and have brebas on them..  I was unsure whether 27 degree air (in the garage) would be harder on the leafy trees than the temperature fluctuation (of bringing them in to the laundry room) would be.  Can leafy trees with brebas deal with 27 degree nights if they don't get frost on them?  In contrast it's about 67 degrees in the laundry room, so it's quite a temperature fluctuation for them.  

  
Can any of the experts here give me advice which is the better choice for leafy trees with brebas, when the temperature will fall below freezing and a frost is coming?
     a) garage (cold air, say 27 degrees, but out of the frost), or
     b) indoors (warmer air, 67 degrees, but subjects the trees to wider temperature swing). (Unfortunately none of the indoor places I have will get much sun, so just keeping them indoors until the cold nights have passed doesn't seem a good option... that'd mean leaving them in low light for 5 days).
  
They're calling for another 3 or 4 nights of frost and below freezing temperatures here, so advice from the experts will be much appreciated!  In past years I'd have just pulled them into the garage, but I've never had trees this leafy and far along this early in the year, with frost and freezing still coming... the trees are at least 3 or 4 weeks ahead compared with most years...  

Mike

Frank,
If any of the cuttings that I sent you died just let me know.
I may have extra rooted cuttings in bags that I could send you.
Eric

Tucson, I had kept going into a similar situation, I brought them in at night and during the day I would bring them out, usually at lunch break.  The frost set some back  and it wasn't great for the trees but it's not bad, I still have about 6 brebas left now (down from 50) but most of my trees are only 1 year old with some being 2-4 years old.  Some I pruned off and some mother nature decided to prune or pinch.

Thanks for responding, Chivas.  Guess I'm not clear on what you did with your trees though.  Did you bring them out of frost but still exposed to cold (freezing) temperatures, or did you bring them inside to keep out of freezing temps but subject them to wide temperature swings?


All:  I'm still interested in advice... my post is #30 (scroll up a little).  Basic question is whether leafy trees with brebas can handle 27 degree temps if out of the frost, or if it's better to subject them to wider temperature swings by bringing in to heated spaces and then out into the sun during the day.  See #30 above for more details.
  
Back when all our trees were outdoors and buried for winter, this was never a question.  But I'm new at trying this containerized approach... sure would like advice on this point from you folks with experience at it!  
  
Mike
central NY state, zone 5

Hi Mike,
If I were a fig tree I would prefer to come into the warmth of the laundry room. It would especially be nice to have the warmth to help my baby brebas stay on the path to ripening.
Any way, that is what I am doing with mine. They seem to like it.
It is too cold for me to take  them outside in the mornings before I go to work, so they go outside mid afternoon when the day has warmed up, and come in late evening when temps drop to or below fourty F. Most of my plants are fully leafed out now, and I have started pinching the tips after 4 or 5 leaves. A few have breba.

Grant
z5b Canada

Thanks Remp, the cuttings are doing GREAT, So far with ALL the cuttings that I have received from everyone one this board and others, 1 cutting went to heaven, and one I recut and trying again.

I brought all my figs in a 1am on friday night.  I think the neighbors think I'm nuts.  It was 39F and was about 37.5F by the time I finished.  There was ice in the birdbath this morning.  We have a frost warning again tonight so I just left them in the cellar.  Now they are talking about temps in the 80's for next week?

Sorry, the room I brought them into only got down to 15 degrees c.  so it was not exposed to cold except during the day or nights that were above 5 degrees (42 f), so they received from cold to warm which isn't ideal for plants but i would say 80 percent of them didn't seem to mind, a couple did but they are growing out fine so I am not worried about them.  It's just the work of moving them back and forth.

Thanks for the info and advice, Grant and Chivas.  I brought them in to the laundry room again.  It's predicted to get down to about 27 degrees F tonight here. 


Glad to hear that both of your trees are doing OK.  Sounds like moving from 40 degrees (F) to 68 degrees (F) doesn't really harm them.  (Guess I'll find out).  I know what you mean about the work of shuffling them back and forth... but after 40 years of burying and unburying the inground trees, hauling the potted trees a few yards doesn't seem so bad.  Besides, I conscripted my son to help.  :-) 

Thanks again for the advice.  I'll let you know how they turn out (i.e. if they hold onto their brebas... about 8 or 10 per tree).  Thanks.
 
Mike

In my post above (#23) I mentioned about -6C forecast for the night. The actual lowest temperature that night was -4C in the open where my 3-year or older plants were located with green tender leaves on many branches. I can't explained why but the leaves on most of these plants survived except Negreta which is less than 2-year old and its leaves became soft and translucent brownish. I did find that most of the breba fruit got brown spots on the top surface. I hope these breba survive.

Ottawan, good luck with those... I hope they survive too.  Sounds like a bit of frost burn on the breba.

  
Meanwhile an update just in case anyone's interested in how my trees responded to the temperature swings.  For 4 nights I brought them inside, while we had freezing temperatures (27F, about -3C).  We're now back to nights around 45F (7C), so I've left them out last night and am again tonight.  I'm happy to report no apparent ill effects... the tender young leaves look healthy, and so far none of the trees has dropped any breba.  Again my thanks to those who gave advice that bringing them inside and subjecting to the wider temperature swings probably wouldn't harm them... so far, that looks to be true.  I didn't do the experiment of keeping any of them out of the frost (but still in the cold, i.e. the unheated garage), so I can't say how that would have worked out... but the wider temp swings didn't seem to harm them at all.
  
Mike    central NY zone 5

I did not have the time to move any plants, half of them lost about half of their leaves, depending on how close to cover they were. Leaves that were older and hardened were spared and no brebas seem to have been damaged that badly. It is sad, but they will recover in no time, and were already ahead for the year anyway. My inground trees were untouched because they are planted next to a wall.

Weather has been so chilly and gloomy that my figs have stalled in the growth-cycle.  Buds stopped expanding, and small leaves .... remain small leaves.  Maybe some good warm weather and bright sun will jump-start my trees.  My "Atreano" just sits there after the root-chop...in a quasi, suspended animation.  I'm at least a month behind in my fig season.  What a revolting development this is!

Frank

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