Wayne/Greenfig - yea, i thought about that but there are no active landscapers at this time of the year and they are generally not nice and giveaway things. They charge for everything :) .
John - the first ebay link i posted is half the price of what you listed and same design, you should check out ebay because at that amazon price you can get them at home depot and they are heavy duty 1gallons. These i used in the past http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hydroponics-Organic-1-Gal-Nursery-Pots-20-Pack-VHPP100-20/202985178 but for the cost and amount i'm doing, its not worth it.
Bill - Thanks, i heard about griffins a while back, i am a bit further away than you are from them. I will probably get my larger pots from them in the future when i get out there, it is a great source for other things that you mentioned. Thanks
Ed - exactly the information i was looking for, that's what i thought. I think ill stay clear of that design as well. Thanks