i'll say.. one out of 6 isn't so bad from what i have been hearing. 

Nice development!  Do we treat these similar to figs?  Roots, fill cup, transfer to 1 gallon, etc..?

Very happy for you Pete !

Wow, congrats!! this gives me hope for my excess mulberry cuttings.

Hey Pete.
ok how did you do that pls share......
i am fighting with my mulberry cuttings still .

thanks

it was a freak accident. out of 6 IL Everbearing, only one is showing the root. other 5 aren't showing anything other than top growth. only thing i did was same as what i do for the figs. baggie, once top or callus or root initial shows, they go into cup. once in cup, they go into humidity bin with RH of about 70% and room temp of above 74 degree F. partial sun. air out for few min daily. no root hormones. 

other thing i noticed is that the top growth on this one doesn't show "flower". just leaves. other cuttings with top growth are showing flowers which i'm cutting off as soon as they are big enough for me to see the area that i can reach in with bonsai shear. 

i got small whitish bumps on the lower part of the cutting and thats it.
it is flowering so probs its not dead.
anyhow for some reason the lower edge of the cuttings is starting to show swelling.
maybe the roots come from there?

did you score them?

ell,

swelling at the bottom is callus. the white bumps are lenticels. all indicate things are normal. in most cases with figs, root will follow soon. mulberry... i'm not sure. this is my first time attempting to root them. i don't score my cuttings. only because figs are easy to root. if i fail with mulberry, i might score them next time.

Looks GREAT Pete.

My ie cuttings are either in trade pots or in the dirt, so I can't see roots, but one has put out two little branches, so I am going to assume it has rooted.

(FYI, the little ie tree I bought from Rolling Hills was a rather long cutting and was in a deep pot.  About 8 inches of that cutting was burried.  And the one cutting that appears to have rooted for me is the one I burried deep in a pot).

this cutting is growing really fast. the root is not starting to circle around the bottom of the cup. the top branch is putting out the flower. this one was little different than the other cuttings in the bunch. it put out leaves before putting out the flowers. other other IEM all put out the flowers at the same time the leaves were coming out.

maybe if flower shows first, that means the energy is being wasted in flower production than on the roots. this is still the only one with root that's showing near the edge of the cup.

out of two Pakistan i have, only one is growing very well. good set of leaves, no flowers yet. however, neither of them have the roots.

in the same humidity bin, i have 4 different Hardy Kiwis. none of them have roots. but they have really pretty leaves :) i have put more than one cutting in a cup for the Hardy Kiwis since i figure they are hard to root with hardwood and the cuttings are thin. with any luck, i might have a mulberry tree out of the bunch.

not sure if this is important, but the only mulberry cutting that has put out the root is right next to the heating vent. i read jon saying that with bottom heat, it might do better. maybe that is what's happening to this one.

I have been one saying that certain Mulberry cultivars I have had a hard time rooting while others I have had success with. I don’t know why I didn’t apply the methods we have learned for figs prior. The prior 2 years I probably have tried over 100 cuttings of Illinois Everbearing and probably 20 Pakistan with zero success.  I have gotten tops to stay green for a couple months, but eventually decline and autopsy revealing no roots. I was scoring them and dip-n-grow in prior years but not bagging them up in Sphagnum and controlling temp. This year like others I  decided to treat them just like I do figs and potted up some more today. On the left is Pakistan on the right I.E. I have several other cultivars in sphagnum just started up as well, so hopefully they do as well. The do take longer than figs to show roots. I sent cuttings to a few folks hope they are faster learners then I was.

And just vent, does anyone want to trade a RDB. I swear I am cursed for that cultivar 2 years ago I failed to root it. Last year I had acquired from 2 sources. One came as green moldy cutting that never took, the second was a single cutting I succeeded with but more on that in a moment. This year I won one of the Chinese new year and received nice cuttings but they just declined on me, one of only the couple cultivars I failed with this year. Yesterday I went out to check last year’s babies that I just moved outside. I paniced seeing the squirrels had been digging in the pots, I thought all the damage was minimal then I saw it the empty pot and label stick they had uprooted and made off with RDB. The devils don’t eat them I don’t think so I search all around not to be found. Then it clicked in my head I had disposed of 3 this week, they are getting back at me the best they can. I don’t think it’s pure coincidence, what are the chances? Well about 3.5% I guess as I had I think 27 2012 spring cuttings and 1 RDB.  I don’t know if I should take the war up a level and bring out the BOD (bucket of death) or try and make a truce  

my IE is going crazy now, only one out of 6. but only need one tree to get more cuttings. but Pakistan looks like it's not rooting. good looking top, but i don't see any roots. i'm thinking not scoring, but scraping just to expose that green layer under the bark. that gives more exposure to green layer. 

i had two RdB. one soft cutting, other hard cutting. the soft cutting grew like crazy, then died really quick. the hard cutting, which was hard green cutting, turned into 1 gal tree and it's going great. no branches to trade yet. it seems RdB is not all the hard to find now days. anyone looking for them seems to get them in very short time. 

Wish I had an RDB for you Phil.  

We have one little Harris Ground Squirrel that likes to eat sunflower seeds whenever I feed the birds, but so far he has left all the cuttings and trees alone.  I drowned his partner last summer by accident.  He/she fell into a tub I had left half full of water.   I hate to kill em like that.  I'd rather trap them and move them only...they're nearly impossible to trap.  To darn smart.

Of the seven cuttings you gave me, one of them, an ie,  has  rooted.  The others just sit there, each with one or two little green buds, looking like they might, but so far...nada.  So it looks like I'll have at least one tree out of the group.   From what I'm reading and hearing...I guess that's not too bad. 

i'm very tempted to pull one of the Pakistan and risk redoing it with bottom scraped. if there is no root or at least i haven't seen one so far, i guess i have nothing to lose. 

With my UC Davis I got 3 kinds of mulberry, being clueless of how to do, I put them in plastic box  with other figs in  moist newspaper and moss. well, my figs are still thinking about what do to, but look  at my mulberries"

wish all my figs did this!

all the mulberry cuttings callus heavy rather quickly. but once they have callus.. i didn't see the roots coming out. as usual, i took that as possible step toward the right directory and put them into the cups. out of 6 IE and 2 Pakistan, i only have one IE that has good amount of roots. 

i'm moving rest of my winter rootings to 1 gal today. while doing so, i'm going to move the rooted IE to 1 gal, and will be checking the progress on others by removing them for soil and checking progress. if no roots, i'll be scraping them and re-cup them. 

So as not to sway to far OT of a OT thread there is Mulberry cuttings in there as well, and some pomegranates. Shangri La and Middleton Mulberry rooted  the only 2 I was successful rooting last year of several cultivars. Back to my corral of roll of hardware cloth and chicken wire over the top, the youngters should feel right at home as they spent last summer in the same setup, but I need to pick up a 4 foot wide roll . I have a body count of three since the crime, but I think the supply of mercenary tree rats that want to become a martyr  from surrounding woods might be limitless, so I don't know if I will ever get ahead, but I have stepped up my defense.

You need a dog.

One that won't eat cuttings or figs.

Dave,
I have a little Aussie , my Daughter used to run agility with him, but she's away at college now and  he has no interest in earning his keep A little rat terrier or such would keep them looking over their shoulder, but my wife swears no more dogs. I think  she said no more figs, but how would she even know:} The dog might not be that easy  to keep low on. Maybe when we get settled in the new place, which just took a big step forward today as we got a contract on our house, just hope all runs clear to close, because we just put in a contract to buy the adjoining 9 acres to our new place, had to act, as it was going to be gone, but hey I just doubled the farm maybe I need another dog.

You're gonna need TWO more dogs Phil.  And more figs....(Tell your wife I said it's OK).

9 acres.  Very cool.  That oughta keep you busy.

I just listened to a podcast from Permaculture Voices with Taylor Walker of Green Dreams in Florida  http://www.permaculturevoices.com/podcast/permaculture-plants-a-business-and-a-hobby-with-taylor-walker-pvp099/

Near the end of the interview Taylor described the method he uses for rooting mulberry cuttings.  He cuts back the mulberry hard and lets the plant grow back strong suckers that year.  Then, when the buds are getting ready to break the next year he takes the cuttings and gets near 100% rooting.  He does not use rooting hormone, just this method.  I can't wait to try this!  Thought you guys might also enjoy.

Other podcasts in the series that I've recently listened to (I have a 40 minute commute each way) and loved are the episode with Dr. Elaine Ingham on soil biology http://www.permaculturevoices.com/podcast/building-soil-health-by-dr-elaine-ingham-pvp096/
and the 2 part podcast with Phil Rutter from Badgersett Farm on woody agriculture and breeding
http://www.permaculturevoices.com/podcast/woody-agriculture-breeding-trees-restoring-a-piece-of-americas-past-and-establishing-a-piece-of-our-agricultural-future-with-phil-rutter-part-1-pvp057/
http://www.permaculturevoices.com/podcast/woody-agriculture-breeding-trees-restoring-a-piece-of-americas-past-and-establishing-a-piece-of-our-agricultural-future-with-phil-rutter-part-2-of-2-pvp058/

Here's the link to all their podcasts...hours and hours of good stuff:  http://www.permaculturevoices.com/blog-2/podcast-2/

Thanks Greg, queued up for my commute too!