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This garlic talk got me all excited so I went out and picked mine. 
Maybe a day or 2 early but we finally got some rain and don't want to take a chance of it rotting.  Mostly a soft neck variety.
 We have had record drought since early May so the garlic is smaller than previous years.
Will leave it in the sun for a couple of days and then hang in the drafty part of the garage.


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  garlic hanging to dry in sun IMG_3692.jpg


I'm impressed,

That's a lot of work. And a lot of great food coming.

About the time mine cure the tomatoes should be ready.

Summer is awesome


This is a great thread.  I've been a long time gardener, but only second year growing garlic.  The first year, I cheapened out and bought garlic from grocery stores to plant (big mistake!).  They came out quite small (softneck and hardneck).  Then last fall, I bought some locally grown garlic (mostly the Music variety) and planted them in October in a raised bed.  I mulched it heavily.  Because the weather was unusually warm here in late fall, the garlic already germinated and started putting out little buds before the snow came.  I covered them up with a black landscape fabric mulch.  And came this spring, they were growing like weeds.

I harvested all the scapes last week.  I must say they tasted great in stir-fries with beef.   I am planning to plant a lot more this coming fall so I could just have tasty scapes!  My garlic plants have mostly green leaves still.  I'll wait till they have about 4-5 green leaves left and then start harvesting them.  The local garlic festivals start here the first week of August, there is when the local farmers harvest theirs.

I see some folks cut the scapes.  I suppose if you have many garlic plants, that is the fastest way to do it.  However, because I only have about 100 or so plants, I prefer to pull them out gently.  That way, I could harvest the more tender part of the scape.  There was no risk of pulling out the plant because of its root system is quite strong.

Pino, you have bumper crop!  Amazing job in braiding them.  I was told by local folks here that, unlike onions, garlic should not be dried under the sun when pulled.  In stead, they should be hang in shaded area to cure.

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Originally Posted by Garlic_Mike
Looks nice,

Should have waited a little longer.

Optimal time to pull garlic should be when 50-60% of the plant has died.

Mike

Thanks for all the instructive info. 

It is hard to tell from the pic, Mike, but all of the plants had at least half of the leaves dried when I picked them, I removed some of those partially loose lower dead leaves when cleaning the bulbs, before the pic.  Most plants had 3-5 leaves that were still green, but also at least that many dead ones. 

I was unable to get to the plants for a week last month and the scapes got a little further along than I was instructed to watch for - some had made a complete circle, some 3/4 circle, just a couple were still pointed down.  They were still tasty in a stir fry.

Hi,
Here, near harvest, people would make a node with the leaves of the garlic. It is said that doing so the plant stops spending energy shooting leaves and get the energy back to the bulbs and that should allow them to be bigger at harvest  time. You could probably test it on 5 just to see if it works. Take the stalk in your hand at half height and make a simple node.
That will get the leaves to dry quicker too.
Good luck !

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Originally Posted by toisanwu
.... unlike onions, garlic should not be dried under the sun when pulled.  In stead, they should be hang in shaded area to cure.
Thanks Bill!
 
Will put them the shade this year and see if I can see or taste any differences.

In past years I dried them for a week in the sun and then in the shade and then store in a cool place that stays just above freezing during winter.  They seem to keep until April then the remaining will start to grow.

eboone,

I have noticed, now that I opened my mouth, that at the right stage, when you pull them they still look green. Especially in the photos. I'll try to put up a couple picks.

The picks in the ground (many) were what was dug today. In the garden they look almost dead. After they were dug, it looks like they were rushed.

My apologies, always trying to help.

Mike

Garlic, garden, GM-172 leaf and a ridiculous start for a large beefsteak cluster.

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Mike,
Beautiful garlic harvest and great photos!

When you have some time could you post your garlic curing method?

By the way that GM-172 leaf is huge are the figs as large?

Hi Pino,

The figs are just starting on the GM-172.

I actually rinse the garlic in a bucket of water and lightly rub to remove some dirt and rinse with clean water.

Then it is laid outside to dry. It is not recommended to wash but I do it. There is too much dirt to bring in the house.

I will leave it outside until it is going to rain and bring it in. Once it starts to dry you do not want it to get wet again. I don't leave it in the sun if it is over 85.

I turn each pile every couple days so moisture is not trapped to form mold.

It then takes @ 3 weeks to fully dry before clipping the bulb from the plant.

If there is green inside when the plant is cut they need more time to cure 

Really appreciate all of the advice and wisdom for a newbie garlic grower like me!  Thanks garlic_mike, and everyone else.

I'm afraid I did not wash mine. I let it dry and then shake off the dirt and remove the dry skin

JDSFRANCE:  Meant to ask when you say you put a "node" in the garlic, what do you mean?

Thanks

Not washing is fine.

I just have to bring mine in the house and I'm trying to keep the wife from killing me.

I just ordered 6 plants from James. I'm probably already good as gone, lol.

Mike:  I'm sure you have enough good qualities that the wife won't kill you over a little dirt.

I wish I knew then what I know now.  I would have ordered some of James' trees.  Now I'm torn between buying an already ready tree or the satisfaction of turning a stick into a tree.  Decisions, decisions, decisions.

Yes, this is good info! I didnt know that repkanting some original bulbs would promote a larger bulb. I have not read all posts so sorry if this has been asked...who sells organic heirloom garlic varieties? Ifnit heirloom at least organic. Thx!!

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Originally Posted by VeryNew2Figs
Ed:  Isn't it fun trying new stuff.  Growing food from food, also fun.  Sweet potatoes from sweet potato slips, a potato from a potato, green onions from green onions.  Ginger and turmeric from the bulbs.  Lemon grass from a stalk of lemon grass.  Avacado and mango plants from seeds.  I started some Goji berry seeds from store bought berries and the five or six plants from seeds (would have been more had I taken better care of them), they're almost the same size as the plants I bought.  They're all still small, but they'll grow.  (And cuttings for garlic bulbs is a good deal).

Mike:  I got the timing right this year with the scapes.  Everything I had read before said that you're supposed to let the scapes make one full curl and then cut them.  I cut them this time just as they started to make the curl.  I figured if it was drawing energy from the bulb, why wait?

Factoid:  When the garlic is nearing maturity, the scape will straighten back up.  (This one I read and I observed).

**Forgive my long-windedness.  I like to talk garden.



I just have to comment here...YES!!! I love to grow my food!!! Its so rewarding! To have a harvest from something timy such a carrot or onion seed is so amazing to me! And, to renew or grow a whole plant from its original parts also amazes me. Rught now I am growing Gokden Kiwi from fruit icut open. Its a variety that isnt too comon or easy to find. I just love it! And by the way, I also enjoy talking about it all so im glad for this topic!

Mike, beautiful gardrn! Amazing garlic crop!

Pino, your garluc is awesome! Okay next year I will plant a good size crop. I have only planted a few heads at a time but thats because I dint know much about garlic. This is really a great thread & im learning a lot even in a short discussion. Gotta find varieties that store longest but still have good flavor. Suggestions?

Meg:  Congrats on your ability to grow onions from seed.  I've never had much luck with onions in general.  And good luck with the kiwi.  I got some started but they kind of just sat there and never grew past the third leaf.  I have no idea what type it was.  I did attend a meeting given by a permaculturist (splg?) in Chicago.  She said she was successfully growing a cold hardy variety.  The name starts with an "A" and has a couple "s"s in it, but I'm not seeing it on Google right now.  She said they're smaller than the regular kind, but she's growing them.

Mike can likely help you with your garlic question.

Hi verynew2figs,
You take the leaves as a rope and make a node. This will prevent the leaves from making more leaves, and the plant will send the energy to the bulb, causing the bulbs to be bigger.
You have to do that near harvest time, because this causes the leaves to dry in the following weeks.
You can see some pics there : https://www.google.fr/search?q=nouer+l%27ail&biw=1138&bih=523&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjQs5DP7u7NAhXGnBoKHT09ASgQ_AUIBygC&dpr=1.2

Thx, Verynew2figs! I do grow a good variety of vegetables. I try everything at least to see if I like the variety. We have such a long growing season here that I can grow many crops even a couple of times in the same season.

What I did with my fig interest is at first I bought three established trees from a nursery. I gave one tree to my mom since she also loves figs and then kept the others. I also recently bought a white Genoa from the same nursery. Last year my trees had their first crop of figs after waiting two years! They were good! I just couldnt be on this forum drooling for months on end. Many members here have established trees for sale but depending on where u you are located, shipping may be hefty.

The satisfaction of growing & cultivating your own fig tree is really wonderful so I would encourage you to go ahead with getting cuttings started as soon as you can but do take advantage of your season & pick up a fruiting fig that fits your zone if you can. Its totally worth it!

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Originally Posted by jdsfrance
Hi verynew2figs,
You take the leaves as a rope and make a node. This will prevent the leaves from making more leaves, and the plant will send the energy to the bulb, causing the bulbs to be bigger.
You have to do that near harvest time, because this causes the leaves to dry in the following weeks.
You can see some pics there : https://www.google.fr/search?q=nouer+l%27ail&biw=1138&bih=523&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjQs5DP7u7NAhXGnBoKHT09ASgQ_AUIBygC&dpr=1.2


This is great info! Im looking at buying garlic for fall planting!

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsfrance
Hi verynew2figs,
You take the leaves as a rope and make a node. This will prevent the leaves from making more leaves, and the plant will send the energy to the bulb, causing the bulbs to be bigger.
You have to do that near harvest time, because this causes the leaves to dry in the following weeks.
You can see some pics there : https://www.google.fr/search?q=nouer+l%27ail&biw=1138&bih=523&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjQs5DP7u7NAhXGnBoKHT09ASgQ_AUIBygC&dpr=1.2


Hi JDS,

This is a really interesting practice. 

My garlic plants' leaves are now starting to turn brown (the tips of the leaves) and I would expect to harvest by end of July or early August.  Would you say now it's too late to do this?

Thanks,

jdsfrance:  I don't know why, but today is the first time the link showing the pictures worked.  Yes, I remember somebody in an on-line group mentioning they tied their onions like that.  Good to know it works for the garlic too.

I've heard about bending the stalk of the onion to help it finish maturing  One year I accidentally bent one of the garlic stalks near the ground.  It ended up being one of the biggest bulbs.

I'm learning lots of tweaks for next year.

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