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Paradiso

I'm a bit confused about the Paradiso. It seems there are multiple sources of Paradiso, but I doubt their the same fig.
Gene got one from an Italian friend.
ficuscarica.com site lists one named Paradiso
Joe Morale has one from Genoa italy.

Do you guys believe this might be the same fig as the other two? 

Bass,
The one Joe sells and the one I have are different.  There was a long, back-and-forth on the GW fig forum about it:  http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg0222022731287.html

I received Joe's variety via a trade with someone else, but the mosaic was so bad I finally threw it out.  Others report that it does quite well for them.  Mine does very well once established here in the ground.  Fall crop is a little on the late side, but most fruits have time to ripen.

Thanks Gene for the info. I wasn't aware of the gardenweb post. I guess what I will need ot do is wait until I get fruit form each varieties and just post some pictures and let others decide if it's the same fig.

The ficuscarica site has added new photos. Here are two different Paradiso that were listed:
Paradiso Bianco

Skin color:
  green 
  Form provided:
  to top 
  Leaf form:
  entire, 3-lobata, 5-lobata 
  Fruiting:
  bifera 
  Aging provided:
  Aug 20 
  Weight provided:
  55gr 
  Distribution:
  ITALY 
  Notes:
  Fioroni average green pear-shaped reddish and some 'caustics


Paradiso Nero
Synonyms:

Potentico

Skin color:
  Soft green violet, with costolature
Form provided:
  conical
Leaf form:
  5-lobata, rarely 3-lobata, with deep sinuses
Fruiting:
  Unifer
Aging provided:
  Aug 25
Weight provided:
  60gr
Distribution:
  Italy, Puglia

Here Yo Go Bass:The white is Exactly like ,and identical in fruit and description with Gene Paradiso.
I have no doubt about it as I had fruits for 2 years now,out of it.
The Black Paradiso is a Black fig like the name sugest,with similar fruits and leaves But Dark color.
The Third Paradiso,(Green),you or another Fellow ,pointed on another site,is a false Paradiso ,and not a true one,as it has round fruits.
Best Regards

Herman,
The Paradiso Bianco seems to fit Gene's description. Paradiso seems to be as popular as the Celeste in the states, Also there seem to be different types of Paradiso just like a Celeste, it seems that when a variety gets popular it's very prone to being mislabeled.
So far there are at least different Paradiso:

  1. Gene's paradiso could be the same as (Paradiso Bianco)
  2. Joe morle's (figtrees.net)
  3. Paradiso Nero


I do not see it your way:I see Paradiso bianco Identical on the Ficus Carica site , with, Gene Strain of Paradiso white.
I see Joe Morle black Paradiso Identical with "Ficus Carica site" Black Paradiso.
I see the two figs in above pixes ,are similar in shape form and size,but not similar in color.Wich makes them White and black Paradiso.
Any other fig that is called Paradiso and does not look like one of the above fruits is not a Paradiso,but another Wanaby.

I see the Blue fig on Europuglia as a False and not true Paradise,as it has different shape form and size.

I also see that I try to clarify Things based on evidence,and you are trying to confuse them farther,without evidence.
The only cases when we have 2 or 3 cultivars of one name is when there is a white a black or a grise colored figs like in Col de Dame.
A Celeste can be ,brown,or Blue Celeste.
These figs are identical in shape taste flavor,and only the exterior color is different.
When we talk about Improved Celeste Giant Celeste MegaCeleste,Golden Celeste,they are Hybrids of Celeste and not the same cultivar.
In Most cases there is only one fig cultivar for one name,and of course a lot of false hybrids going also by that name.
We should avoid to call all those false worthless Hybrids,another "strain,of a real cultivar".
Even worthy Hybrids Made by Reasercher Horticultors, are most of the time Inferior to the original old cultivar,in quality.











I think it may be too quick to say that the other sites paradiso is "false" when perhaps in that part of italy its been called that for years.  It still a paradiso, just not the one from ponoma italiana ( giorgio didnt ID all 500+ fig cultivars known in Italy since Midevil times).  If you go by his description,  joe morle has a "false" paradiso as well.  If  I could, Id call the others dark #1 or white #2 etc to avoid confusion and just refer to the original as simply a paradiso.

I found another picture of Gene's Paradiso:


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