can someone tell me when paradiso "gene" and kathleen's black put out figs? i mean, when does the little figs start coming out? my negronnes/VdB has good amount of little figs on it, but i'm not seeing anything on paradiso and kathleen's black yet.

it's on zone 7 nc.

pete

Are the figs on Negronne/VdB forming on grey/brown wood (breba crop), or new green growth (main crop)?

It's main crop. All three trees, I was told, were rooted spring of last yr. So, they are all just over a yr old.

Pete

If the figs are young then the fruits will start growing from now on,if they are older than 3 years the Kathleen Black would have had fruits at this time,While The Paradiso Gene will start them now,as it is a later fig.
I am talking about main crop.
If it does not happen ,your trees are not strong enough for fruiting yet.
Apply Manure and Limestone !

Hey Vasile I have never used limestone yet, wich do you recommend powder or chips? And how much should be applied.

Thanks

I gave garden lime back 3 months ago. They are in 4 gal pot and I gave hand full each.

I do see something about to come out, but they are not yet like lil worm like VdB was when it first put out fig. But both are growing very fast.

Pete

Here was a discussion about lime from 2 months ago. Hopefully it helps.

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5159690

I read somewhere else in the forum saying 20-20-20 is too much. I have been using 20-20-20 till about two weeks ago. Maybe I should do half strength. I haven't got a clue with this fig thing. I just want to eat the darn thing when they are ripe and not kill it on the way.

Pete

I think it's hard to follow one method without experimenting and finding the best that works.

But I don't believe you can apple too much lime. I do triple 20 every 3 weeks with no problem on 1+ yr olds. New cuttings in pots get 1/8 strength working up to 1/4 to 1/2 strength by end of year.

Next year i'll start a regular regiment but you can't go wrong with slow release.

This is my 2nd year and 1st with cuttings. I'm learning as I go too.

I was too lazy to change it-I deserved that one!;-)

It's ok, it made my day!

Whatever limestone you can find but powder acts faster.
My Kathleen Black 5 yrs old has cherry size main crop now,(inground),and Paradiso wht only now has very little embryos.

I have noticed on most of my trees the fruit is on the right and the breba( next year) and/or branch is on the left. Depends on if I pinch the top above. If I pinch then it seems to branch out from that position.

If I pinch early on in the life of the cutting, it truns more bushy. If I let it go it gets more of a tree form.

I had figs form late as well and they hung on all the way to Spring. They were large so I pulled them off only because they seemed like hanger-ons from the previous season.

I guess the question doesn't make any sense to me. 

The only thing I can tell you is that I've never paid attention to the color of the two as the buds form, I always see them as green unless the fig has a pink or red eye by nature, at which time you will see the eye begin to peer out at you, and it may look a different color?

If they are only a year old, he may not see something for awhile because of weather variants.

The only two that I have read about here that may have buds be pink/purple from the start is Negretta and Violette de Bourdeaux.

My 'Malta Purple Red' cutting bit the dust this year. I was upset over that one.

Maybe its a chance 'sport' that will re-emerge later on on a branch yuo can air-layer. But i know very little on that variey. Figure that is how Panchee started as a sport of Col de Dame fig.

@NYPD

My negretta from Italy has red/purple branches. It is a very pretty and aggressive tree. 

One day I will arrive at a chance on that variety. I read that it likes rocky, almost dry conditions.

The veining on the pics by Martin made it a 'gotta get' one day. But I could say that for quite a few others as well for different reasons.

Sometimes, from what I have read and researched, a branch may exhibit a strange occurence. It may come out with different fruit, different branch characteristics. May be even a fruit does the same.

The fruit you speak of may be an anomaly that can be taken off, as a cutting or air-layer.

If you can reproduce that, you have big $ on your hands.:-)

In all seriousness, you may never see it again as well. Even the Panachee can revert back ( called Reverse but why it's not called Col de Dame is beyond me).

I won't go as far as saying it has figs it normally doesn't have, but just that some genetic abnormality showed itself in that particular fruit of yours.

It's an interesting occurence. It may speak to other genetic variances lying deep within the DNA of the cutting ( tree) that you may be able to re-produce one day.

Hi Bullet,
Growing in pots from my observations in my yard in my climate.

My older trees put out fig embyro's around same time as each other.
Younger ones may be a little bit behind but not much but there are exceptions where they put on fig embyro's right at same time as the adults.

 The difference i have seen then later in season is the young ones is they will ripen there main more sproradic compared to the elders.

The elders will ripen main crop closer together.

As the young ones get more mature they of course produce more figs that will ripen more timely than being as spordaic than a few ripe ones here a few ripe ones there.

There are exceptions from season to season and type to type, and weather plays a big factor in taste and ripening times.

Last season here for example my main crop ripened early and finished early cause of the hot weather we experienced .
That affected the taste of some of my figs but not all because there different types.
Hardy Chicago not as rich Sals El not as sweet they ripened in shorter period of time quickly swelling and turning and getting there hangmans neck fully ripe but taste was not as good as in a normal season.
While VdB hummed along and was really good tasting along with a young Ronde.
This is example of a few in my yard.

Other may have different experience with there own yards.




Concerning red buds yes Negretta pretty buds and red veins , The red veins look nice for a while then go away as the leaf grows.

My Vdb, My Mission, Ischia Black also display pinkish/reddish buds.
Some others in my yard have light pink outer bud petals that when open the interior leaves that emerge are green with no red veins.
Some others have faint red veins when leaves first emerge and very quickly dissapear but just not in every emerging opening bud displays this.

To date Negretta has the most colorful reddish buds that emerge and longest lasting red veins in its leafs.

Pinkish/reddish stems are also observed in a few types in my yard as well.

This is just in my yard i speak about and my own experiences .

I will see if I can take some pics my negretta. It has been a very aggressive tree for me and one of the most prettiest..