I've been reading the French book by Pierre Baud "La figuiere Pas a Pas". He described Pastiliere as the earliest to ripen the first crop. The photos of this fig is amazing.
I was wondering, the Pastiliere that's available at the UCDavis is it the same one in France?
Here's the pastiliere on this Catalan site http://galgoni.elirob.com/ENG/Fotos_Maxi/032.htm
Baud pastiliere
Has anyone in the states noticed the pastiliere ripening early?

Bass

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Mine is still small, but definitely wasn't early for main crop. You know me and brebas.

Pierre Baud says that it's the earliest to ripen main crop along with Ronde de Bordeaux. This can be a great benefit for growing figs in short summer season.
My guess there could be 2 different Pastiliere, Jon you have an unknown that you call pastiliere also is that the one that ripens late? it might not be a pastiliere.

I do have a UCD Pastiliere (2006.UCD47). Fruited last year, late Sept.
See post #18 pic , ~5 o'clock, on plate, small dark figs and rather over-riped.
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/figs4funforum/vpost?id=2143390&highlight=hollier

I have Pastiliere from USDA / UC Davis, as well as the "Unknown Pastiliere".

UP fruited about 2nd week of the season last year. Pastiliere was later that 6th week. I haven't gotten the order posted for the ones that ripened after Labor Day, but it would have to be in the part of the season.

Does anyone have a 3 year old and above Pastiliere that drops a good proportion of its fig ? My 2nd year  plant does.

Paul my 2 year old Pastiliere from Pierre Baud dropped all fruit this season hopefully next season I can sample a fig. Also have Jon's Unknown Pastiliere around the same age but no figs yet.

Hey Paul, you may find this review of Pastiliere helpful: http://www.planetfig.com/cultivars/fcveng8586.html

My 3 YO Pastiliere from UCD dropped all of its figs this year. Most attained full size, colored, and just fell to the ground. None that fell to the ground were edible.

Dan

Looking back at my dated pictures and rethinking about my Pastiliere.


Mine produced 1 ripe  fig last season August 11th 2010
dropped the rest. A ucdavis specimen with FMV that showed in the leaves and also in the fruit that dropped to be noted.
Later last season the FMV was hardly noticeable in the leaves but still in the fruit which dropped but not in the one that ripened, i show picture in bottom of this post a most beautiful fig.
Some notes:
 at this time plant was 14 months old, the season was a hot one for us and plant was in Full sun grown in container sitting on cement patio.
I may have posted in frustration last season about this plant.

Reason being i had destroyed my Italian Unknown that had given me 1 total ripe fruit in 4 full seasons i had plant. 1 darn ripe fruit in 4 years.
BUT before i did this i passed out some scion requested of that tree.
One person wrote back that it held many figs and they ripened and there is No fig wasp in PENN. This was first time it produced for this person also but a very young plant unlike mine.
Why did this plant respond the way it did for me and not this other person Lord only knows.

Something i consider also but at this point im not sure about only a consideration about "my plant" and no one elses plant problem.

The fruit that dropped all showed signs early on plant of having FMV on the fruit itself when green in early and laste stages as they dropped off.

The one that ripend showed no signs of FMV on that 1 fruit itself and it ripened.


It was also showing on the leaves earlier in season but waned and was barely noticeable mid summer.

Young plants drop fruit, some matured ones in ground drop only a small amount.

The first picture showed FMV on fruit that dropped, the second picture shows it on fruit in early stages when green, these are not bug bites but spotting on the fruit whichi have learned is FMV does show on fuit not only on figs but many other crops.

As noted in above post the one that ripened did not display that as shown in the other pics.

Now dont get me wrong im not saying this is why the fruit dropped on my tree no no , im only pointing out in the post what i observed and not mention last season.
But its something im given more thought and will watch more closely in the upcoming season.

Many know about FMV display on leaves most not about it display  on fruit skin .
I only leanred about this recently when i seen pictures of it on another site.
I did some searching around and its common to display on fruit itself in many other types of plants most notibly veggie crops.
Squash, pumpkins, cucumbers, watermelons, and many others have Mosaic problems that display on the fruit itself .

Its just not written much about figs.
Here is link i talked about in summer on other forum showing a type of FMV
on a squash.
Not much interest on that subject though.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg0817505313120.html

The link I posted seems to indicate that total fruit drop is common with Pastiliere, given certain conditions, especially rainy weather and poor draining soil.

It also suggests that Rouge de Bordeaux is a synonym, which is interesting, because it Rouge of Bordeaux was on my "I'll never get it, but I like to dream I might" list  ;)

Thanks Jason for the link.
I seen this in past i think Nelson might have posted it.
But memory serves me poorly when i read things it does not stay with me very long so rereading helps it sink better !

Jons site and that site match mine in fruit and leaf shape to the T even though we are in much different climates.

Also you mention Rouge de Bordeaux ( very small -2 leaves )  which i also aquired mid October and it soon went dormant . It will be fun to see how fast it grows compared to my Sultane similar size.


 

It will be fun to compare them if these little plants make it thru dormancy although i doubt i will get any fruit from several next season unless they have growing characteristics similar to my Ronde.

Pastiliere is a partly parthenocarpic,partly cauducous fig.
It is early and productive in climates where the fig wasp is present.
If you reaserch places where it did well you will see they are places where fig wasp reside.
This is my 2 cents.

Hmm, mine didnt drop the figs, it just didnt ripen in time. We had a late frost here that kicked all my trees back by about 1 month. It grew nearly 3 feet with a 2" trunk.