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All the bad filling is because one blame himself for not taking care of the plant .children what ever,and the blame the person could have be doing more to help,but like in this case ,do not blame yourself,because it is the genes,to drop fruits.
As a Matter of fact,I do not send fig trees that drop,to anyone else in the south,even if they have a farm,like i did with the late cultivars that will not ripe properly here.
I just tossed  them in the garbage ,or if they were thinner and could be chopped in my Wood chipper,I turned them to mulch so no one will use any piece of wood to grow a new plant.

Thanks Martin , I've ever heard that combination of Auxin & Ga3 hormone could help the figs fruit not to drop.

@Herman , You're right..,  I've  never been exchanged/traded my Pastilere to fig lover since I had it in 2010.  Unless I am sure it could produce figs fruit normally.

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The reason why Pastiliere Celeste,Kadota,Drop fruits or some dry on tree like wood,(kadota),is because the tree makes in the same time on main crop,2 kinds of flower:
Mule Flowers=will become the plumply tasty juicy fruit
Female flower,(pistillate)(no stamen, inside)that needs pollination =the dry fruits that will eventually fall out without male pollen.
This is an anomalously that does not happen to precious good cultivars.
That is why,I would say if you do not live in a climate where the fig wasp is present stay away from this cultivars.
I am sure Pastilliere makes wonderful fruits in Marseilles county,in France,but not here in NJ.
Do not take as a fact what Pierre Baud or Ira Condit,or any other Scientist that grew and evaluated fig cultivars in ideal climates where the fig wasp live,because it is a fact what they say in their climate, not in Korea China ,North east,Russia Sweden etc,where fig tree is grown today.
The area where fig tree is grown today expanded beyond their wildest dreams.
And the internet will expand it even more in the future,as the climate change ,makes the growing of fig tree more atractive to country that experience severe drought in the present,and have a total loss growing corn today.
Fig tree for small plot could be profitable,and it is a drought resistant fruit tree.

The reason why Pastiliere Celeste,Kadota,Drop fruits or some dry on tree like wood,(kadota),is because the tree makes in the same time on main crop,2 kinds of flower:
Mule Flowers=will become the plumply tasty juicy fruit
Female flower,(pistillate)(no stamen, inside)that needs pollination =the dry fruits that will eventually fall out without male pollen.
This is an anomaly that does not happen to precious good cultivars.
That is why,I would say if you do not live in a climate where the fig wasp is present stay away from these cultivars.
I am sure Pastilliere makes wonderful fruits in Marseilles county,in France,but not here in NJ.
Do not take as a fact what Pierre Baud or Ira Condit,or any other Scientist that grew and evaluated fig cultivars in ideal climates where the fig wasp live,because it is a fact what they say in their climate, not in Korea China ,North east,Russia,Eastern Europe, Sweden etc,where fig tree is grown today.
The area where fig tree is grown today expanded beyond their wildest dreams.
And the internet will expand it even more in the future,as the climate change ,makes the growing of fig tree more attractive to countries that experience severe drought in the present,and have a total loss growing corn today(as an example).
Fig tree for small plot could be profitable,and it is a drought resistant fruit tree.
Yet only growers that plant the right cultivar for their area will be successful.

Very detail and nice explanation , Thanks Herman...

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I've ever heard that combination of Auxin & Ga3 hormone could help the figs fruit not to drop.


I would be very careful and investigate throughly before spraying plant hormones on fruits, especially some of the synthetic auxins. I believe some are thought to be carcinogenic. That's why these days people are advised to be very careful when handling rooting compounds like Rootone that contain auxins.

Thats right Gina and i never spray anything on my trees, only thing they get is Mg until figs are near mid size. Im fortunate we dont have bug problem and such hear.
Before i used to fertilize late but not anymore.
I may give 1 weak dose after the trees are spent of fruit as well.

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Had a ripe Pastiliere this morning and it was truly excellent.
This year the Mulberry flavor was full on my palate and the end came a little seed crunch which i always liked.

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Great looking fig, I purchased a Pastiliere from Pierre Baud in 2010 was a year old at the time that season it had about 2 dozen figs they all droped the following season had a few figs that droped early on after reading that it was a common problem I discarded it.

Hopefully it will stop dropping figs for you martin. My celeste in its 3rd season has dropped all the figs the last 2 seasons and I still have it lol go figure.

Hey Martin that is a nice looking fig thanks for the photos.Here's my unknown Pastrielle I hope I get this fig to ripen It's the only fig on the tree.I wonder if my plant and your plant are similar?Thank you

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These 2 i put in the aborted section , they were going to fall off today yet i knew from looks not easily seen in picture there would be dry spots cause of the coloring even though they swelled.

I cut that part out and it tasted like the 1 fully ripe fig i had this season and described in his thread.

Rob i do not know what plant you have but hopefully its not same as mine.

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Got home today after a twelve day road trip and I look at my Pastilleire and it had that dreaded look on it. Couple of the figs were pruning and soft but not ripe.
One is half purple but it's a goner.

What a heart breaker.

I was thinking about giving Pastilleire a try. I don't think I will though, after reading about all this heart ache.

Im crazy about mulberry's and when i ate this fig Aug 1st it tasted like i was eating a Illinois everbearing mulberry period 100% .

This fig pictured had to have been one of the best figs on my palate i was floored simply because of that pure mulberry taste it brought to my palate.

I also wanted to pull that tree right from its pot and march it over to the burn can .

The 2 fully ripe figs i have noticed came off one particular branch all others are dropping on the other limbs , there are still more figs on that particular branch that i have marked and will watch to see what it does as im curious .

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Here's my Pastiliere cutting from UCD, started on 6.9.12.  They only sent me the one scion, so I guess it's either in demand, or they only had a few cuttings to give out.  I'm happy it has taken root, and it looks like it will go into dormancy as an established plant.

Way I see it, few precious fig is worth the effort. They look great, Martin.

So it looks like I should hold on to my plant and hopefully it is the same as yours Martin.Thank you for the photos.

Udaman - mine also UcDavis cultivar.

Bullet  - while the fig is top notch on my palate its really not worth it for a few figs in a season  - that is in my yard .   ; )

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Im crazy about mulberry's and when i ate this fig Aug 1st it tasted like i was eating a Illinois everbearing mulberry period 100% .



Forgive the blasphemy which follows.

If you love mulberries so much, have you considered getting a Gerardi Dwarf mulberry? They are supposed to be one of the best tasting mulberries, and they aren't going to be any bigger than your fig tree.



Quokka , in short no i will not get a mulberry tree here .

With so many people talking about taking this fig to the trash I just want to say that I would be happy to pay shipping for one of these little guys and give it a second lease on life. P.M me if you are thinking of discarding this variety.

James,

I'll be glad to send you a cutting when mine gets large enough.  But, I hope you get one sooner than that.

Thanks for the offer but I'm looking more to save one that is about to be sentenced to the mulch pile. I hope your tree does well for you.

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