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Pastiliere question!

Hello Guys!
This year I will have posibility to get this variety from a hungarian guys, who got this variety from Pierre Baud. I did a little research on the net, and I was find some bad news about this variety. I heard this variety droping the fruit heavily, but its not a proved info. So the reason why I'm writting cause I want to know is this information is true or not? What do you guys think about this variety? Do I have to give  this variety a try, or not?

well figs can adapt to a wide vareity of  climates so you really dont know until you give it a try i dont know i knever had this variety but a guy in new england grow figs and it produces good for him  

Supposedly while young it drops figs more readily.  I just acquired one from Jon P so I won't know until next year.  I will plant it in ground to try to prevent some fruit drop but it will take several years to see the result.  if you have space why not try?  I hear it is an outstanding fig.

i hear it is too it probaly drops until its mature

Mine here in Seattle, Washington, dropped all fruits... sucks!  but a cutting sent to Igor in California produced and fruited in its 1st year.  Best luck

My Pastiliere came as a 1 gallon from Raintree Nursery (supposed to be from Baud) in early April. I planted it into a half wine barrel, and it grew well and fast. The first several fruit dropped. By September, the fruit set and did not drop. Here are some pics I took a few minutes ago. For the middle of November, the fig is delicious. I can't be sure how it would do in your climate, but I think it is IMG_3406.JPG  IMG_3409.JPG  IMG_3411.JPG  worth trying. Good luck.


Thanks for posting Gary, I have 3 from Raintree, all about 3 ft. tall and branching so I should get some figs next year. The eye looks like it can withstand Florida weather. Now please tell me you are not in an area of the fig wasp and I will be really encouraged.

Hi Wayne, no fig wasps here yet, but I'm working to change that. I have some varieties that will need them! You'll enjoy Pastiliere, I'm sure.

Good luck, I would love to have some wasps here in Florida.

Hello Guys!
This variety has very mixed judgments, but Gary your photos are beautiful, so I think Im gonna give her a try. But I still waiting for more experiments.

Gary, does these leaves look like your?

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Thanks Gary

Before giving up on Pastillier, I am trying to root and test from a 4th source because plants from previous 3 sources never gave a ripe fruit. The plants did not drop the fruit at all but hung up tightly on the plant, the ribs became obvious as the fruit aged but never ripened and overtaken by frost. 
I am glad this thread came along because I was also thinking if it needed wasps to ripen or is it our late spring plant coming outside in late April.

can people in canada ship plant material to the usa

NO...........
This thread is about Pastillier. Now go and do your school work.

okayyyyyyyy ill be back tomorrow after i put my figs up for winter 

is unknown pastillier  the same.  people say they are different but,  I have heard the same about it.  i have an unknown pastillier and the guy told me that it would drop fruit in the beginning.  he told me that it was ordered from bauds but was given something different,  so he did not know what he had.  All the problems seem the same though

They are different, by taste and look.
Originally, the Unk. Pastiliere came from Jon.

Hi,
I bought a supposed Pastiliere, but the leaves on mine have lobes more of finger types , thin and long. The palm of the leaf is shorter.
The tree was of a good size for a potted tree, but looked sort of stunted from overgrowing the container size. I planted her somewhere around April this year.
For sure, she dropped 5 figs when the figs were already big, one more went to the birds, and I got "allowed" to get one fully ripe. The fruit was of good quality and good size with a really dark interior almost red-black with honey - I got surprised.
I'll see was she does in the next years.
Pastiliere is a slow grower and is "unifera" so don't expect to get brebas except on rare occasions .

Trying the strains in your own conditions is the best way to know for sure what they are worth.
I would give it a try .

At a very young age, Pastiliere does drop figs.  BUT after a few years, the figs are well worth the wait.  I got 2, 6' tall trees that are thick as my wrist at the base of the tree. One from Baud and one Unknown Pastiliere.  And I bought 2 more last Fall from Raintree.  My 2 large ones are about 5yrs old now.   And boy do they put out some amazing juicy figs.  Surprisingly, both young trees from Raintree produced 2 ripe sweet figs!  None dropped this time.   Are all of these the same as Unknown Pastiliere?  Maybe...I really don't know.  I will know next year.  But one thing every body has to remember....... JV's Unknown Pastiliere is caprified by the wasp.  If you don't have the wasp in your area, your fruit will not look or taste anything like his.  So, even if you got a tree from JV or another friend in CA, the same is true.  The wasp lives in California and even common figs there gets caprified.   Which is why people who lived in California for years and are familiar with Brown Turkey figs there ask for BT figs by name on the East coast....thinking they will taste the same as California.  But they won't.

Dennis,
Thank you very much the the info. I had not realized my Pastilliere from JV was a caprifig. I need to order another. Any interested in a cuttings trade?
mgg

Michael, I think you misunderstood Dennis.  Pastilliere is not a caprifig.  Dennis is saying that all of Jon's figs are visited by wasps and so they will taste better than the same fig variety that ripens outside California without the benefit of the wasp.

Of course that doesn't stop any of us from wanting to try it  :)   If it's one of the best with the wasp it may also be one of the best if none of the other figs get caprified, either.

From what I understand, Jon's unknown Pastiliere is thought to resemble Pastiliere, but not for sure the same fig. Pastiliere does not need the wasp, I'm unsure if the unknown Pastiliere does.

I am done with my unknown Pastillier that came from Jon after I send cuttings to those I promised. It may or may not need fig wasps but surely it behaves as if it needs it and we don't have wasps. I showed 5 years patience with unknown Pastillier.

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