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brahms74

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Please help me to tell florea fig.

these 2 pots came from same florea tagged bags. (thank you mnedelcu)

but shows a clear different shape.

one is sharp- looks like trident!

and the other one shows round, +relatively small size leaves.

I think some other species mixed up by my mistake.

sharp one shows some small figs already. This one looks like a real florea.

but I can't tell/guess about round one. what is this cute one?

Please help me:-)

p.s 3rd image is from my bee hive.

these bees are Far East Asia native species. Apis Cerena. also lovely:-)

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Florea is the second plant with longer thinner leaf lobes.
I know Because It was my Father tree and it is named after him.
My father is gone, now,but his tree is growing all over the world as it is almost,  as hardy as a peach tree.
brahms74

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Thank you Herman, I care Florea like a Dresden china:-) It's my precious~
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Herman,

How touching to know that your dad's tree is a living honor to him.  That's a wonderful thing and I'm glad to know this.

What kind of figs does it have?  Do they grow in the States?


brahms,

Are these bees gentle, or are they fierce like the African bees?  Do they make lots of honey?

Thanks for the pictures and I hope you are happy with your new trees,

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Apis Cerena is a very good one.

nice and mild. almost no hostile:-) easy to keep.

I'll add some movie soon.

though they looks similar,

A.Cerena and A.Mellifera(AKA European Honey Bee) is totally different.

No F1 between A.Cerena and A.Mellifera.

and A.Cerena is a relatively protected species in S.Korea...

after 2008, Chinese Sacbrood Virus(CSBV) spreaded and over 90% of Apis Cerena colony had perished.

lucky Apis Mellifera had a tolerance to CSBV, but Apis Cerena was not.

Market price of Apice Cerena's Honey is over USD300 per 2.4kg jar.

(Apice Mellifera's honey is USD40-60 per 2.4 kg jar)

After CSBV spread, Apis Mellifera bees are prosper prosper. but Apis Cerena bees are is in danger.

:-(

Last year, I also have lost 12 Apis Cerena hives.

and about their Honey Flavor, figuratively speaking,

Apis Mellifera honey = cow milk. Apis Cerena Honey = goat milk.

substitutable, but different.

some people say sugar is sugar. what is difference?

Yes same sugar. but different scent and taste.

I always highly recommend Apis Cerena and honey.

(Apis Cerena has a mite tolerance!!)

But I Think US quarantine will surely ban these species to protect Apis Mellifera and your ecosystem:-)

p.s. please let me know the name of round leaf fig tree~~

 
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I have no Idea what the fig with rounded leaf is.
You will need to have ripe fruits to show,and dominant mature leaf.
Vivian :Florea can be a problem in the south as it can't take rain very well.
This fig is good in the North but not very good in the rainy south.
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Good luck with your bees, I know you make honey but without bees our food production also will decline badly. Your trees look very healthy.



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brahms, Thank you for sharing info about your bees!! I too am a beekeeper. My bee hobby has pushed my fig hobby to 2nd place. Do you have Apis dorsata in your area?
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Hello dear bee friends!

sorry, No Apis dorsata in Korean peninsula. Apis dorsata lives only in northern India and Himalaya area:-) Far Far west from here. However, instead of big size Apis dorsata, we have a big big size Vespa mandarina mandarina. Yes, as you know, a real disaster. 10 Vespa mandarina can destroy 10 Apis Mellifera Hives. a real nightmare and bee keepers nemesis...

but some people here use Vespa mandarina as a folk remedy for hypertension.

I do not believe or use it. nononononono!

However, included image is a Vespa mandarina whisky.

beverage for Beelzebul HaHa

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Brahms,

I wish I could help you identify the tree with the rounded leaves, but I can't.

If you got your trees from Marius, why don't you send him the photos and let him know there are two different varieties of trees and ask him what the one with the rounded leaves is?  If they came from him, he should know and can tell you.  It might be a variety that is something you would really like and would do well for you.

Don't be afraid to ask him.  He seems like a very nice person. He seems to want things to be good for whoever he sells/gives to.

I'm so sorry about your bees.  I like honeybees and feel terrible things are happening to them everywhere.  I pray that the strong bees will recover from the virus and go on living to produce virus-resistant offspring.

Did you just call the Vesapa whiskey, "The Devil's Brew?"  LOL!

Herman, thanks for letting me know the Florea wouldn't do well down this way.  It helps me make a better list and not bother with figs that would be a disappointment.  :)

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Thank you for kind note Noss:-) Thanks~
p.s. I'm sorry, but confused to remeber ID.Marius=mnedelcu same person? then who is herman?
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Yes, Brahms, Marius=mnedelcu.

Herman is a very wise man who knows a lot about figs.  He loves figs and he is the one whose father is honored with a namesake fig tree-The Florea.  Very special tree.

Herman lives in New Jersey and it is more humid and rainy and so is my climate, but more so.  I live in Louisiana, which is way down South in the US, on the Gulf of Mexico.  I was thanking him for telling me about the Florea and letting me know it wouldn't be good for my climate.

I apologize if I confused you.

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Thank you for everything:-)
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today afternoon:-)
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The one with rounded leaves is Alma fig.
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So mystery solved.
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Thank you very much Mnedelcu!
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Greetings ...
I'm new here, but I have long time Loved figs!!!
I have finally secured my own land, so!!!!!
I'm wondering how to get some hard to get varieties...
Like LSU varieties, and a Florea fig trees, and several others...
There are others I would love to get my hands on...
I live in Ashland Oregon...  Southern Oregon...
High Desert...  Hot summers with cool nights...
Cools off in mid Sept...  First frost end of Oct.
I want to get all the right kinds...
Thank you all!!!
Shaloma
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Hi, Shaloma!  You'll get the best information if you start a new thread introducing yourself.  We have a few members in the PNW and I used to live in Roseburg.  You are in USDA zone 7a so very few trees would survive outside without protection.  Hardy Chicago would die to the ground some years but would come back if you buried it deeply enough when you planted it.  Using a greenhouse or grow room would extend your season a lot.  Most of us grow in pots and when the figs go dormant move them to a garage or other protected area where the temperature stays above 30 degrees or so.
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