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I just received my Panache from ebay seller kristeinjoy it was as advertised and well packed, shipping was a little slow even for snail mail, I understand not going to Post Office every day.  Her name is Erma G**m from Farwell, Mi 48622 and I would order from her again, as long as it turns out to be true type.

Panache bark should be easy to identify because it's striped.  Sometimes you have to wet it to see the stripes but they should be reasonably obvious dark green vs dark yellow.

I have seen some trees with some branches heavy with stripes and other branches just a light brown color

Thanks for the info.  People have a tendency just report their negative experiences with ebay sellers.

Armando, try wetting the branches where you don't see stripes then let us know.

I would order from most ebay sellers as long as they are TRUE Variety and are healthy and from USA. But, unfortunately it takes time to verify the TRUE part and by that time you have given positive feedback and it's too late to file a complaint. Know the seller for safety or gamble with the frame of mind that you could be tossing your money away, sometimes you win sometimes you lose.

Can I ask you to give some specifics about the Panache tree that you purchased?  Size, pot size, etc?  I have tried to send her an email, but got the response she is not answering emails?  That usually is not a good thing from an Ebay seller.  Thanks!

The tree I got was listed as - a small dormant tree well rooted.  It was exactly that, about 6" tall, a little bit smaller than a pencil, in a 2" sq plastic pot.  It did have 2 very small leaves.  Can't really tell if it is striped or not.  Time will tell.

Hi Danny, I did a little sleuthing and this is what I came up with. 

The seller lists a few other varieties that stand out to me because they are available as tissue culture. Searching for "Panache tissue culture" I find a catalog for Hartmanns plant nursery, in Michigan, that offers tissue culture Panache. So I think you probably got a Panache. A 2.5" container is offered by Hartmann for $2 each, 100 plant minimum order. It could be a rooted cutting from a TC plant also, Wellspring sent me one that way. Based on the other items listed and lack of original photos, kristeinjoy looks like a reseller, not a grower that would propagate from their own plants, so I would bet they are buying and selling TC plants.  

If that is what is going on there are some other things to think about. Depending on what type of tissue culture process Hartmann used you may or may not ever see variegation. When chimeras are put through somatic embryogenesis they can split apart, back into different plants, so some plants end up all white and die and others will be all green and a few are still vareigated. The level of variegation can be changed as well. 

Some plants would be the same as Reverse then... Or not, somatic embryogenesis is prone to causing mutations, so there could be changes from one plant to the next. Could be good, could be bad. Hartmann's might not have used somatic embryogenesis, I doubt it though, since that is the traditional method with a reputation for producing virus free plants and that is what they say they are selling. 

Hope it does well for you.

-Brent

Here's a photo of the striping.  This is the most subtle I can find.  I had to wet it to see it.  It's under a HPS light so the green color isn't pronounced.

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@Brent - Good piece of work.  I had suspected it was a TC but I guess I dismissed it because it is 2x the size of the LSU Purple I had gotten from Wellspring, which I deemed to be a waste of money.  I did not know about the TC reversion issue, thx.  I am satisfied with the purchase and will remain so until it does not turn out to be true to type, that's the risk I took with an ebay deal.  Pretty much the same risk with Lowe's or Home Depot, based on what I have seen in the past.

Panache are variegated. Thought jolly tiger has the variegated stripe on stem??

I have had trouble with tissue culture plants as well, specifically they were very root bound in seedling flats and stunted. They were anywhere from 3"-6" tall but had less than a cubic inch of root space so the roots were solid masses packed in more peat moss. It sounds like your Panache does not have that problem though, a 6" plant grown in a 2.5" container should be in good shape.

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