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Potted Culture Limestone Question

Rich,
The Soil Doctor Pelletized Lawnlime is not the same as "Fast Acting Lime", which is a highly processed limestone product. The Pelletized lime is only limestone dust that is mixed with an inert water soluble binder and formed into pellets. The fast-acting refers to the smaller particle size that breaks down faster when applied to the soil and watered in as opposed to the larger grain size of Granular or Pulverized. I've used Pelletized and Pulverized Limestone interchangeably, though I prefer the pulverized.

Fast Acting Lime is closer to hydrated Lime and is several time more concentrated and caustic.
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I have the same product. I realize it says fast acting. I just ran a test, I grabbed some pellets and put them in water and they dissolved right away. So does that mean it is slow release? I guess not. At what rate do fig roots absorb the available alkalinity? I don't know. I am neither a soil expert nor a master gardener. I am no different than you. That is why I come to this forum. But I have never seen pelletized dolomitic limestone harm any of my figs, and I have close to 20 plants and over 3 years growing them to compare. So take that as you will. Sorry I could not be of any further assistance.

Calcium makes the soil alkaline.  It is a chemical reaction.  The way to speed up a chemical reaction is to use finer ground particals of the elements.  Pellitized lime is very fine lime dust with an added binder that makes it easier to spread.

You could likely add a shovel full of washed grannular dolomite with little effect on the soil pH in a pot.  A half cup of pellitized lime may be too much, depending upon starting pH.  Within the soil, the pH determines the availability of the minerals.  Very few plants will grow at optimum at a pH level above 8.  The other required minerals are bound into the soil and not floating around to be available for exchange.

Hey rafaelissimmo
It's all good in the fig world lol you take care and God Bless .

                                                                                                   Rich :)

Hi ascpete
Thank for the feed back.
What brand do you use and how much do you put in your soil ?

                                                                                                   Rich :)

Hey Rafaelissimmo
This guy is a pro here is one of his post on soil Best potting mix read all his post great stuff.
He is on here Figs 4 fun forum .
Its funny i have 20 figs all so got some great one the other day .
Take care .
                                                                                                 Rich
                              The guys post name on here is Tapla read all of his post .

Hey Rich thank you I know about Tapla a good friend of mine talks about him all the time, he is a real expert although he is not without controversy. He has stopped posting about figs I think. Like I said you have a good soil mix, I also use promix hp and pine bark and sand AND pelletized lime and compost, sometimes I add Bill's mushroom compost, sometimes I add turface. It's all good.

Hi Rich60,
You can't compare feeding a tree in a 2gal, or in a 20 gal like Belclare or in ground like some others.
Your pot was too small for limestone . That is what some are trying to get you to understand.

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Originally Posted by ascpete
Rich,
The Soil Doctor Pelletized Lawnlime is not the same as "Fast Acting Lime", which is a highly processed limestone product. The Pelletized lime is only limestone dust that is mixed with an inert water soluble binder and formed into pellets. The fast-acting refers to the smaller particle size that breaks down faster when applied to the soil and watered in as opposed to the larger grain size of Granular or Pulverized. I've used Pelletized and Pulverized Limestone interchangeably, though I prefer the pulverized.

Fast Acting Lime is closer to hydrated Lime and is several time more concentrated and caustic.
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The Fast Acting Lime and the Pelletized Lime are the same thing.  Fast Acting results from the lime being in a very fine powder form.  A binder is added to that powder to create something that can stick together and be formed into the easily spread small pellets.  Once water hits those pellets the binder disolves changing it back into the powder form.  Fast Acting lime is hydrated lime, just combined with a binder.  It is not more concentrated, the minerals are just more immediately available than when supplied in grannular form.  It is the availability factor which has been changed.

Rich,
You're welcome.
I've used several local brands including the Soil Doctor.
My recipe is 1 cup per 5 gallons of Peat based custom mix as explained in Post #2.

BTW, if excessive pulverized or pelletized limestone is added to a mix simply flushing several times with clean water will lower the pH close to that of the water used.
Fast Acting Lime, Quick Lime and Hydrated Lime release much more available calcium, usually generate heat because they have been processed, this may cause root damage as soon as it is watered. I never use them and due to their caustic nature they should be used with caution and in much smaller amounts around growing plants

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I always use dolomite lime, I know it is safe, I have put lbs on tree pots with no ill effect.  I had some hydrated lime but I never put it on anything as it would kill plants easily.

Hi ascpete 
Thanks for your help buddy i got a good feeling about using the stuff you are using my gut says go for it so thank you so much you are the man .
Take care.
                                                  Rich :) 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chivas
I always use dolomite lime, I know it is safe, I have put lbs on tree pots with no ill effect.  I had some hydrated lime but I never put it on anything as it would kill plants easily.


The fast acting pellitized lime is useful for applications to turf and planting beds.  In those cases use it at about 10# / 1,000 sft per application to gradually raise the soil pH.  It can safely be done once a month if necessary based upon soil test.   Look at the bag label to tell if there is also magnesium in the product.  Pellitized lime can also be Calcitic Lime - no magnesium.  The granular lime is normally Dolomitic lime - Calcium and Magnesium in the crushed stone. 

Get a soil test.
Use Calcitic Lime to add immediately available calcium.
Use Epsom Salt to add immediately available Magnesium.

Hi chivas
I would like to thank you all so for your help have a great day :)


                                                                                             Rich 

Hi Charley
Thanks for the heads up take care and have a great day . :) 


                                                                                  Rich 

Ok...

So now Im confused.

Can I add "Soil Doctor Pelletized Lawn Lime" from HD to the fig plants I have currently growing in 5 gallon pots or not?
If "yes" how much should I add to the 5 gallon nursery pot ?
Can I just put it on top and water it in?

I don't add on top, I mix it into my soil mix, replenish when root pruning. For in ground do a soil ph test before adding to top.

Do's and Dont's from Belleclare...

http://figs4fun.com/Links/FigLink012f.pdf

Thanks RichinNJ
I have read the do's and dont's on Belleclare's nursery it is good i copied  it .
I got the right limestone  and have added it to all of my trees and they are all good thanks for all your help your the Man 
Take care.
                                                                 Rich 

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