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Potting cuttings

I am curious how many roots do you like to see before you pot your cuttings? Here's a few I did today 

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This is why I don't like small cups. The roots are very fragile at this stage. I would wait until you had a really solid root ball. To test this the soil should not fall away from the top of the ball, it should be solid. This is why I start in bigger pots. Less times you have to increase pot sizes and risk damage.

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This is why I don't like small cups. The roots are very fragile at this stage. I would wait until you had a really solid root ball. To test this the soil should not fall away from the top of the ball, it should be solid. This is why I start in bigger pots. Less times you have to increase pot sizes and risk damage.



I have to say I've never had a problem potting rooted cuttings that looked like what Dave has in those pictures. That's pretty much the only way I've done it and I have never lost a cutting that far along to root damage. 

True, it'd probably be safer to let the root system lock in the growing medium. But I tap the cup lightly and gently squeeze the edges of the cups so the roots separate from the cup walls on their own. 

I use a spoon to scoop the potting medium around the edges of the cutting and on top of the roots without compacting the soil. I then water the soil and let the water weight displace the soil to fill in the empty space. 
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Actually one reason I like the coir is because it falls away from the roots with no effort whatsoever  I don't like to pot up a cutting with the rooting medium attached to the roots I found in the past that when you pot them up with the rooting medium around the roots it creates a sponge effect and doesn't dry out as the same rate as the soil and was causing allot of root rot it was a big problem for me with Sphagnum moss and I remember allot of the guys were having the same problem with the root riot set up 
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I've also had no problem potting my cuttings with roots like that
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Dave, do you water them with fertilizer?
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Actually one reason I like the coir is because it falls away from the roots with no effort whatsoever  I don't like to pot up a cutting with the rooting medium attached to the roots I found in the past that when you pot them up with the rooting medium around the roots it creates a sponge effect and doesn't dry out as the same rate as the soil and was causing allot of root rot it was a big problem for me with Sphagnum moss and I remember allot of the guys were having the same problem with the root riot set up [/QUOTE
Your just showing off your awsome rooting abilities ;) well i took your advice and grow my figs in a tub with clear top ( glass ) leave it cracked open and its amazing how much faster they grow. ]

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Question. I've been thinking about this for my own rooted cuttings and it may be a silly idea, but why not slit the cup lengthwise 4-times (in quarters) and remove  2 sections and plant the fig and rest of the cup into a larger container? Will having the original plastic cup inside the root ball really make any difference? Fig roots go everywhere. I'd be interested in anyone's opinion. Thanks!
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Well it's been 3 days since I potted them and so far it looks like they are going to make it 

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Dum luck Rich nothing more than dum luck 

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Originally Posted by Dave
Actually one reason I like the coir is because it falls away from the roots with no effort whatsoever  I don't like to pot up a cutting with the rooting medium attached to the roots I found in the past that when you pot them up with the rooting medium around the roots it creates a sponge effect and doesn't dry out as the same rate as the soil and was causing allot of root rot it was a big problem for me with Sphagnum moss and I remember allot of the guys were having the same problem with the root riot set up [/QUOTE Your just showing off your awsome rooting abilities ;) well i took your advice and grow my figs in a tub with clear top ( glass ) leave it cracked open and its amazing how much faster they grow. ]

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Something tells me that would make for an unhealthy root system 

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Question. I've been thinking about this for my own rooted cuttings and it may be a silly idea, but why not slit the cup lengthwise 4-times (in quarters) and remove  2 sections and plant the fig and rest of the cup into a larger container? Will having the original plastic cup inside the root ball really make any difference? Fig roots go everywhere. I'd be interested in anyone's opinion. Thanks!
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I took my cuttings i rooted in tubs out they are full of new growth. Two hours later the,started wilting. Put them back in tub and this morning there are fine. Should have opened the tub more then i did.

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A few years ago I had that problem I would open the top of the box and the leaves would go down put the top back on and up would go the leaves 

Now this is how I keep my box from start to finish sometimes I take the top right off for an hours to get plenty of fresh air in there " No More Droopy Leaves Ever" 

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Question. I've been thinking about this for my own rooted cuttings and it may be a silly idea, but why not slit the cup lengthwise 4-times (in quarters) and remove  2 sections and plant the fig and rest of the cup into a larger container? Will having the original plastic cup inside the root ball really make any difference? Fig roots go everywhere. I'd be interested in anyone's opinion. Thanks!



It's not what I'd do because roots will go through the holes you put in the cup and get pinched off, others will go around the sharp edges and get damaged.  Then there's the break down products of the plastic and plasticizers leaching into the soil.  Some people pre-slit the cup, put it in another cup and that makes it easier to pot up when the time comes.  I wouldn't want to leave the plastic in the pot forever. 
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What about compostable corn cups?

http://www.ecoproducts.com/greenstripe_cold_cups.html
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What about compostable corn cups?

http://www.ecoproducts.com/greenstripe_cold_cups.html


Those cups are only compostable in commercial composting facilities. If you buried it now, it'll still be there in 50 years.
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Paper mashe ??? That would be flour water and corn starch. Really environment friendly. User friendly not so much. It really compost quickly

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Dave
Your plants look great.
I start in the quart containers that you use secondly. I also think those smaller cups are too small and a waste of time. After good root growth in the quarts I put them right into 1 gallon.
I also would not hesitate going from those small cups right to 1 gallon. The roots are ready to roll with the big boys. At that point they can stay in 1 gallon for a long while, untouched
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What kind of dirt are you using?  I have some starting to make roots and they are setting in a jar of water and want to pot them before i stick them in the ground.

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Smitty
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Hey Coop I like the smaller cups because I don't have to keep them in the coir for a long time " always have to be careful of root rot" Last year I went right to a one gallon container this year  just because I have so many cuttings I went to a quart if I had the room I would go right to a 5 gallon sheet rock bucket 


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Dave
Your plants look great.
I start in the quart containers that you use secondly. I also think those smaller cups are too small and a waste of time. After good root growth in the quarts I put them right into 1 gallon.
I also would not hesitate going from those small cups right to 1 gallon. The roots are ready to roll with the big boys. At that point they can stay in 1 gallon for a long while, untouched
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Hey Smitty we are using coco coir to root the cuttings do a search there is allot of information on it 










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What kind of dirt are you using?  I have some starting to make


roots and they are setting in a jar of water and want to pot them before i stick them in the ground.

Thanks
Smitty
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Thanks will check it out now.
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This is my first year to try my hand at fig propagation. Ifbever there was time that the search botton will confuse you, this is it. I've never investigated a single subject with more varying opinion and approaches in my life! So I've teied severalbof the approaches all with mixed results. The moss was about 65% effective and I haven't list any plants that actually started rooting. For me thw hardest part was getting the little recalcitrants to start their proverbial journey!

Now I'm trying to do some cloning and again, so far, the results seem mixed. They are however a lot less messy! I haven't quite got the cloned fid to the point of planting yet, but a few of them look like they are threatening to make some roots! The parallels to golf are frightening. You hit that one good shot and then you think " I got this" only to have it allude you for the next hunfred!
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This is when I up-pot my clear cup cuttings.

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