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Potting mediums-what's your favorite/which works best?

Hi folks, how are you keeping?
I'll be needing to pot up my cuttings if all goes well. I have coco coir from coconut husks and a professional peat based growers medium that I mix up with light fertilizer, and azomite. It works ok but if I forget to water it it dries to a husk.
Should I keep up with this mix and make a SIP or do you have a better potting mix that you can recommend?
Also what potting mix do you use when you move your cutting to a gallon sized pot?
I've come to realize that my bag of Miracle Grow potting mix harbors its fair share of critters that may be alright outside in a container but not so in the home.

I use a modified gritty mix of 4:3:2 perlite:mini bark: calcined clay. Works amazing. Use a rayon mop string as a wick.

When I lived in the Mecca of C’ville Virginia they had real nurseries. They carried Fafard 3B mix which I found to be the best for growing nearly everything. 

Now that I’ve been transplated into suburbia... No one carries anything good, even the lustralux nurseries here. I mix my own: 

4 parts perlite, 3 parts pine park, 2 parts compost, 1 part sphagnum peat moss and a dash of lime and osmocote. 

I would ditch the peat moss, and opt for something like a 1 pine bark \ 1 coir \ 1 perlite mix.

50% pro mix HP 50% soil conditioner (pine bark fines). Dash of lime and ozmacote.

to 1 gal, i keep same mix as in cup. 50/50 perlite/seedling soil from MG. when i move out of 1 gal, i use 5:1:1 soil conditioner/perlite/s. peat moss. works well for 2-3 yrs.

i keep same mix to 1 gal since i don't bareroot at that stage. when going out of 1 gal, i bareroot. two different zone of soil mix can lead to one zone holding excess moisture.

Hello Potatochips101,
The following mixes are what works for me. <edit>

Potting mix for cuttings:

2 - parts sifted Pine Bark Mulch 1/4" to 1/8" mesh
2 - parts sifted Perlite 1/4" to 1/8" mesh
1 - part Coconut Coir fines
1 - part Peat moss

Potting Mix 1 gallon and larger...
5 - parts sifted Pine Bark Mulch 1/2" mesh
1 - part Peat Moss   
1 - part Perlite           
1 - part Fullers Earth  (Oil Absorbent/Tractor Supply)   
     Plus - 1 cup Dolemite Limestone and 1 cup Espoma Plant-Tone per 5 gallon of mix.

The Espoma (Garden-tone, Plant-tone or Tomato-tone) contributes fertilizer, micro-nutrient and Mycorrhizae to the mix, in addition to other insoluble nutrients. The Dolemite Limestone increases pH and adds Calcium and Magnesium which are introduced over time as it breaks down with all the microbial action in the mix from the fungal and bacterial cultures (mycorrhizae).

For comparison:
Fertilome UPM: 85% - 15% (peat - perlite).
Pro-Mix BX:       85% - 15% (peat - perlite).
Pro-Mix HP:      75% - 25% (peat - perlite).
Fafard52:         60% - 30% - 10% (pinebark - peat - perlite)
5-1-1:              71.4% - 14.3% - 14.3% (pine bark - peat - perlite).
5-1-1-1:           62.5% - 12.5% - 12.5% - -12.5% (pine bark - peat - perlite - Oil Absorbent)

Good Luck.

Thank you all for your responses. I've gotten some good ideas from all of you. That's why I appreciate this forum. It's like a family of fig growers helping each other out.

I prefer these in the following preferred order.

Fertilome UPM
Fafard 52 Mix
LC1

I quit adding perlite to what already is in the mix. I want to retain water in my pots than to drain quickly during the hot humid Summer months.



I use Rafed's #1 choice also straight out if the bag.

Very interesting.  I love reading potting mix recipes.

Here's what I have on hand:

Coco coir
Peat
MG Potting Mix
Perlite
Vermiculite
Sand

What's a good recipe?

For a number of years I used the old Ray Givan potting mix recipe consisting of:

2 parts fine pine bark
1 part perlite
1 part composted manure

Depending on conditions, adding more pine bark or composted manure adjusts for either a more porous vs. water retentive mix.

To this I would dust with dolomitic lime and osmocote.

I got tired of mixing my own potting soil and now I purchase a ready mix nursery blend from a local supplier that is cheaper and works just as well.

Should the potting mix depend on the climate conditions?
I believe the one that works fine in MI might be to porous in CA since it is much dryer and hotter in CA, no?

Greenfig,
IMO the answer should be NO ; )
Because the question should actually be whats best for the fig tree, not necessarily whats best for the grower. <edit>

But to address your question, the mix can and should be modified to meet your specific conditions. The recipes should be used as a starting or reference point. But, the fig cutting mix recipes should remain light and porous to allow for air and moisture retention without getting water logged,which should yield the highest survival rates.

not sure about the science behind 5:1:1 mix, but it does very well for the potted figs. of course, you'll have to add necessary fertilizer, lime and so as needed.

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Originally Posted by greenfig
Should the potting mix depend on the climate conditions? I believe the one that works fine in MI might be to porous in CA since it is much dryer and hotter in CA, no?



IMO yes.

A climate where it's a lot of rain during the growing period and cooler temperatures it is good to have a mix with a good drainange so the roots won't rot. (i would add more perlite and barkfines to the soil)

In a hotter climate with high temperatures this mix might be too light to hold enough water.
In hot summer days my little pots get's watered in the morning before i go to work.
When i came back in the evening those pots are almost completely dry.
And  i don't live in a mediterranian region...

So i guess in a hot dry climate like Las Vegas or L.A. it is nessesary to have a mix which hold the water a longer period of time. So it is possilble to add more soil and less perlite or mulch.


I agree with Rafed 100%. I like my pots to retain some moisture. I still have to water daily.
I really like Fox Farm Ocean Forest. I had great results last year with it.
I also use Pro Mix w/BIOFUNGICIDE. http://www.pthorticulture.com/en/pro-mix-bx-biofungicide-biostimulant-growing-medium/ I've been up potting with this.

I started out making my own mix with Peat, pine nuggets, and perlite. I just hate having all the bags of this and that laying around.

Thanks, guys.. One yes, and one no :)
I am leaning towards the yes myself.

I have a question about adding the gypsum versus the lime into a mix.
How do they work and is it a bad idea to add both?
It is much easier to buy the gypsum for me than the Dolomite Lime.

I've been looking at the ingredients of lots of different mixes lately and they all have the same basics as we are all using. They all however contain a "wetting agent"
What is the "wetting agent"???

I used Pro Mix HP all last year for potting up with great results.
This year I will try Nectar of the Gods potting mix as recommended by local hydroponic shop,
was told by owner he was having twice to triple grow compared to Pro Mix HP.

Once they go into 1 gallon pots it's Fafard #52 soil mix for everybody and everything. I do add small amounts of lime, Azomite clay (minerals), bunny poop, fish fertilizer, kelp, crushed egg shells and pretty much anything that will deliver micronutrients and anything that's organic and is on sale. I have been using less compost and more bunny poo as there isn't enough compost for my figs and veggie container garden. The egg shells do help somewhat with the slugs if crushed enough.

If anyone wants to try Peat's blend Tractor supply has the Saf T sorb on sale for half off, 80 pounds for $7.

It seems my gypsum question slipped through the cracks. Anybody is using it?

Well, figs like well drained soil, so whatever you use should be well drained.  Peat retains water, and figs don't like that.  This is from Al on Garden Web, and it's a winner!

1 part uncomposted screened pine or fir bark (1/8-1/4")
1 part screened Turface or Diatonacious Earth (I use Turface)

1 part crushed Gran-I-Grit (grower size) or #2 cherrystone (I use crushed granite)
1 Tbsp gypsum per gallon of soil
CRF (if desired)
Source of micro-nutrients or use a fertilizer that contains all essentials I use 1/8 -1/4 tsp Epsom salts per gallon of fertilizer solution when I fertilize (check your fertilizer - if it is soluble, it is probable it does not contain Ca or Mg.


Suzi

I use: 
garden loamy soil-costs nothing and is very rich in nutrients.
some fibrous material-only to increase drainage and aeration(coco or some bark)
some compost.

this summer  i will take a small pot of compost and put it over the main tree pot and will irrigate over the compost pot and the tree will "drink" compost tea.

this is because i tried mixing alot of compost to the mix but it makes the soil too heavy and moist.

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