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Question about Desert King.

I am looking for a tree that will give me a few very early figs. Would Desert king be a good pick because the breba crop is the edible fruit? How cold hardy is the desert king? We get some pretty cold nights down here (especially this winter). I had at least a week or two of nights down in the 20's with a few nights down to 20 degrees. I had an LSU gold and a kathleen's black in the ground unprotected that did fine, but I am wondering if those temps will affect the desert king?

Hi John,
I live in Albuquerque NM and have a Desert King in the ground in front of a south-facing concrete block wall.

At my house, we have nearly 100 nights/year where the temperature goes below freezing.

In the picture
left: Italian Honey, right: Desert King.
Top picture was taken in early '08, while the bottom picture was taken after leaf-drop in '09

I probably go overboard for protecting the trees in winter. I had heard that after a few years, they are hardy enough to handle it, and at least could come back from the roots if killed to the ground. [loslunasfarms said that wrapping the trees here does reduce the dessication by our desert winds]




I really doubt that once established, your Desert King would need winter protection, but I defer to the expertise of others here. One of the main reasons I do it is that without the fig wasp here, all I get are brebas. Since I consider them to be delicious, I want to savelast year's wood so it will produce figs for me.

DK is hardy. It's grown outdoors in Vancouver, Canada with no protection and one of the most common fig tree. Only delicious brebas and bountiful. Ripens in late July/early August. It seems this variant have not done well in the East Coast Of USA. Thus, I am not sure it is good for your zone.

Interesting about the east coast thing Paully. I was going to pick up a plant, but I may just save a little cash start some cuttings next year instead after hearing that.

DK has been an extremely good fig in lower NC. It has been very hardy and ripens the brebas around June 15th. 


Jack

Jack, do you have to do any protecting in your area?

I have never used protective covering. My DK is at least 20 years old and has 

seen some very cold weather in some years. 12F did no damage this year.

I grow a large number of figs and I have seen years when young one year
plants would get damaged badly, but always recovered with good rapid
growth. 

Jack

Since this relates to Desert King, I'm reopening this rather than starting a  new thread.


About 7 years ago, my dad planted a fig tree in his yard [he lives about 8 miles from Jon], but the fruit has never ripened. We surmised that the tree [an unknown transplanted from the home of a friend who was moving], needed more heat than coastal San Diego could supply.

So, two years ago we bought a Desert King from Jon and planted it in his yard.






Well....this year, he not only got ripe Desert King figs, the other tree has produced ripe figs too. This, despite San Diego having a cooler-than-average summer this year.

Dad said "I think the other tree realized that unless it put out, it was about to be replaced,"

Some pics of the unknown tree, taken about 2 years ago:

The other one got fruits because a Swarm of fig wasp,landed in your area with pollen on their bodies.
Do not count on that one to make fruits every year.
But you can count on Desert King.In Jon area the fig wasp is present,some of his fruits are pollinated and some not.

As a follow up, I just got back from 4 days in San Diego, Dad's mystery tree is now continuously producing lots of ripe figs....so it seems not to be a fluke.  


The flavor was ok, but this is the first year the tree has produced ripe figs.  [What I learned here is to not judge a fig on the first few years of figs it produces.]   

Also, they live pretty close to the ocean  [just one mile northeast of here: ], and this has been an unseasonably cool summer. Therefore, the fact that they got any ripe figs is an indicator of good things to come!


I took some pictures [which I will post later] of the fruit and the leaves. From pictures of leaves I showed Jon a while back, it could be Reverse [Panachee reverted back to no-stripes]. Seeing the ripe fruit makes me believe that's what it is.





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I am resurrecting this thread because I had put pics of my dad's tree here 3 years ago.

Well, this is now the fourth year, and the figs are MUCH better tasting. However we do plan to graft other varieties onto it



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Hi,
Nice production .
May I ask why would you be grafting ?
Isn't the tree enough productive ? How many figs do you get (approximately and if I may ask of course :) ) ?

That tree is a bit high for my likings ... I would consider some trimming ... to be able to fetch all the figs without a ladder or climbing in the tree.
I'd rather have two smaller trees than an unique big one - but of course, this is my way of thinking - and for now winters helped me keeping them small :( .


<<May I ask why would you be grafting ?>>

Grafting other varieties to it would allow us to enjoy other fig varieties without planting other trees [there isn't much more space]. However more importantly, it is another good activity that a son [who had lived 800 miles away for 23 years and just returned to his hometown] can do with his father. :)


<<Isn't the tree enough productive ? How many figs do you get (approximately and if I may ask of course :) ) ?>>

I am not sure, how many figs it produces, because until recently I did not live nearby and often my visits did not coincide with fruit ripening [silly me]. However, there many main crop figs on the tree, so if they are as good as the brebas, we will be very happy.


<<That tree is a bit high for my likings ... I would consider some trimming ... to be able to fetch all the figs without a ladder or climbing in the tree.>>

Yes it is pretty big, partly because I was not living in town to keep it pruned lower.  However, now that the fig flavors have improved, we are happier with it. Nearby we do have a Desert King, but even after 6 years, it has not grown very big.


<<I'd rather have two smaller trees than an unique big one - but of course, this is my way of thinking - and for now winters helped me keeping them small :( . >>

In hindsight, yes it would be nicer to have a smaller tree, but it is a magnificent specimen of a tree, and I just have to remind my father [87] that he can let someone else do the climbing.

@paulandirene, what a lovely tree you have, congrats... 

- How was the sweetness on the scale of 1-10?

- Did anybody here identify this variety?

- what zone is the tree in? that purple lining that I see could be indication of caprification but I don't see much seeds in it. Were there any crunch when you ate them?

On sweetness, maybe a 7 but I'd need to try some more fresh figs to better determine that. This year they aren't nearly as watery-tasting as previous years. (My dad doesn't water it much and there's been very little rain so maybe that's why the flavors are much more concentrated this year.) No crunchy seeds and we haven't determined what it really is.  Zone 10b (San Diego)

The tree came from Margaret a longtime friend of my parents who lived just a few blocks away. She offered the tree to my dad before she put her house on the market some years back. Bless her memory, she lived to be 99 and was active until very shortly before she passed on.

AH, San Diego, so that means you might have Wasps...that might explain the purple lining between the skin and the Meat go the fruit. So, if it's fertilized then why there aren't any seeds in it? or are there, you need to sift one with the pulp and wash through to see what you get in the bottom of the cup.
Are you going to be at Jon's Fiesta 2014? You can try many varieties and bring some of your fruit to show around , maybe trained eyes of few Forum Members can identify it for you :)

Well, I found out something new about Dad's fig tree. I had erroneously believed his neighbor Margaret had planted it, and had offered it to him to remove before she sold the house.  Rather it was growing wild, too close to her house. She asked Dad to remove it so it wouldn't damage the house's foundation. Instead of throwing it out, Dad transplanted it in his own backyard. If I understand, figs do not reproduce true to seed, so we really have no idea what variety it is. 

While the figs do taste OK [much better than in previous years], we do plan to graft different varieties onto it.

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