question on possible Vasilika Sika

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charliethefig

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charliethefig

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Posted 1436828713	Reply with quote #2

Figs4 fun is a great please for learning everything there is too know about figs.. I am still new to collecting but always check the post as the end of the day for insight into whats going on with Figs.. question I have is on an old tree that has been in the family for many, many years.. by looking at the leaf I am thinking that this is a Vasilika Sika, do you think I am on the right track? would it possible to be anything else? would I need to post a picture of the fig to confirm? as usually everyone's insight and information is greatly appreciated. Thanks

figpig_66

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Posted 1436832444	Reply with quote #3

This should help. I see now there are three kinds. Attached Images 2015-07-13_20.05.17.png (141.22 KB, 72 views) __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

Rewton

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Posted 1436840275	Reply with quote #4

Could also be Stella or even Brunswick. Seeing the fruit would help a lot to distinguish between the possibilities. __________________ Steve MD zone 7a

brianm

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Posted 1436844427	Reply with quote #5

Also keep in mind you want to look for the most consistent leaf shape on the tree. If a tree has been pruned earlier in the year sometimes the new leaves will be a totally different shape. Just fyi. __________________ Wish list: Galicia Negra,UC Davis Black Ischia, Maltese Raven

charliethefig

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Posted 1436873421	Reply with quote #6

thank you everyone, i am taking notes on everything and starting a detail sheet for my figs and will take everyones information. for now i don't have any photos of the fig as i only recently started getting into documenting things. once i get some figs will post with a quarter and try and get close to identifying

philos

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Posted 1436892832	Reply with quote #7

My understanding is (and I am not an expert by no means!) that there are 2 types of known V. Sika. One with elongated leaves, and one without. I was under the impression one was sourced to Herman, and the other one to Bellclare Nursery. Am I wrong??? __________________ Jerry - Zone 6B Westchester, New York. 2015 Wish List: Florea, White Greek, Italian 258, Galicia Negra and any M. Pons varieties.

FiggyFrank

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Posted 1436899393	Reply with quote #8

Jerry, that sounds right. The Belleclare VS is most likely Dalmatie from what I've read. __________________ Frank zone 7a - VA

charliethefig

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Posted 1436911732	Reply with quote #9

Thanks someone posted earlier that there were three (3) Vasilika Mavra (Black kind of fig) Vasilika Aspra (White kind of fig) Vasilika Melissi (honey like skin color) which was news to me, again constantly learning which is what I love about this site.. also did not know that " Genuine Vasilika do not have elongated finger " which I always thought for sure they did.. will still continue to do more research on this and again thanks for everyone's useful information. again the telling tale will be photos of the fig which I hope we will have in the coming months..

AltadenaMara

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Posted 1436972153 · Edited	Reply with quote #10

I think this is the correct info. Some one correct me if I'm wrong: The three Vasilikas that were listed were the Vasilikas grown in Greece. Belleclare's Vasilika Sika sold here with the long, finger like leaves has been identified as Dalmatie and possibly even White Greek and Stella. Herman2 introduced a strain of Vasilika Sika to the US that is refereed to as Herman's VS or Green Greek and is probably the same as the Greek Vasilika Aspra. Herman said that Belleclare's VS was an excellent fig, but his VS tasted slightly better. It was identical to a Vasilika Syka from a Greek Gardener in Mount Laurel New Jersey. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=6528866 Trees of Joy sells a Marva Vasilika Sika that is a black Greek fig that comes from came from island of Chios, Greece, also with an excellent flavor. As Enigma posted, many pixils have been shed on this forum discussing the issue and a quick search will keep you busy and confused for hours. __________________ Mara Southern California Zone 1990= 9b 2012= 10a 2020=?

Rewton

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Posted 1436992879	Reply with quote #11

Mara, just as a clarification, what I am recalling is that Herman2 got his fig (which he refers to as Vasilika Sika/Syka) from a Greek Gardener in NJ. I think that is what you meant to write, correct? So it is probably more accurate to say that the Greek gardener introduced this fig to the US but Herman2 facilitated its fame. Maybe Herman2 can chime in with more information. __________________ Steve MD zone 7a

ChrisK

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Posted 1436993610	Reply with quote #12

Quote: Originally Posted by charliethefig Thanks someone posted earlier that there were three (3) Vasilika Mavra (Black kind of fig) Vasilika Aspra (White kind of fig) Vasilika Melissi (honey like skin color) which was news to me, again constantly learning which is what I love about this site.. also did not know that " Genuine Vasilika do not have elongated finger " which I always thought for sure they did.. will still continue to do more research on this and again thanks for everyone's useful information. again the telling tale will be photos of the fig which I hope we will have in the coming months.. Hey Charlie. The actual translation of "Vasilika"is "royal " so " Royal black" and "Royal white" respectively. __________________ ChrisK Atl GA Zone 7b-8a

AltadenaMara

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Posted 1437062998	Reply with quote #13

Quote: Originally Posted by Rewton Mara, just as a clarification, what I am recalling is that Herman2 got his fig (which he refers to as Vasilika Sika/Syka) from a Greek Gardener in NJ. I think that is what you meant to write, correct? So it is probably more accurate to say that the Greek gardener introduced this fig to the US but Herman2 facilitated its fame. Maybe Herman2 can chime in with more information. Steve, I think that’s right. Here Herman2 gives the source of his Vasilika Syka: “It is absolutely Identical to Vasilika Syka,I have from Greek Gardener in Mount Laurel New Jersey.” http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/what-is-your-best-green-fig-with-red-interior-7164883?highlight=what+your+best+green+fig+red+interior&pid=1285067639#post1285067639 __________________ Mara Southern California Zone 1990= 9b 2012= 10a 2020=?

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