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charliethefig

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I have a question on UC Davis fig program, back in March 2014 I received a Col De Dame UC Davis DFIC 74 (Ficus carica L. MORACEAE) but on the paperwork it claims "Unverified name: Col de Dame"

Also states: "Donated from: California, United States Maintained by the Natl. Germplasm Repository - Davis. NPGS received: 01-Jan-1900"

Just wondering if anyone knows or understands the meaning of "unverified"

this fig is starting to make its first fig and just wondering if its truly a Col De Dame
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I do not understand,what they mean by the word,but,i can for sure tell you,that i grew this fig and the fruits are exactly as described by people that know this fig in regions of the world where this fig is grown commercially,EX: Spain.
Unless they sent you cuttings from another tree,it is truly Col de Dame.
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From everything I know, their "Col de Dame" IS Col de Dame. CdD has a very distinct shape and very dark color that are not seen on any other fig that I know of.

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They should have a nice neck, and are usually even darker than this - very, very deep red.
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It's CdD Blanc or Blanche.
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Thank you Herman appreciate your response and my tree is a very slow in growing, but it does have 1 fruit that is starting and I am looking forward to it. I just thought it was strange that UC Davis put on the paperwork " Unverified name " I am going to email them and ask them why they list it that way.. can you offer any suggestion on growing tips for this, been reading to put a fruit spike in when fruit appears? what do you think? just leave it and let nature do its thing?
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pitangadiego   thank you for the photo's great photos .. gonna print it down to show my dad who is an old-timer and starting to gain interest into this trees.. thanks again looking forward to the fruit

 

rcantor, the paperwork from UC Davis doesn’t mention anything about Blanc or Blanche. I guess we will have to wait and see when the fruit ripens
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My Col de Dame Blanc from UCD is also slow growing and didn't ripen any fruits its first two years.  Even though it is slow growing it doesn't exhibit obvious fmv symptoms and looks healthy.  This year it grew a bit better and should ripen about a dozen fruits.
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charliethefig: I do not know your location,but I can tell you that outside Ca.,this fig grow very slowly!

Unverified,means ,they did not ask horticulturists,in Spain(where is prevalent),if the specimen they have at Germaplasm ,is genuine,nor did they compared DNA of plant in collection,with known plant in Spain.
In other words the ,unverified word is a disclaimer,but trust me the specimen is genuine.
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Thanks Rewton much appreciated is the insight I do believe that mine also has some " symptoms " but still looks to be in good shape.. here is the photo of the fig that is just starting on it.. hoping it makes it.

 

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Thank you Herman2 I am really glad to hear that from someone that the  specimen is genuine.  I am really looking forward to growing (although slow) this fig into my collection.
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I agree with VS.  Outside of CA, it does grow slowly.  At UCD, the tree is a true dwarf and a fine one at that!  I have one in a 2 gallon pot.  One tip to getting the tree to grow and branch out is to feed it a good liquid fertilizer.  My CdD-B was a tiny little whip growing in a 8oz cup about 6 months a go.  Today I feed it weekly with Florialicious Plus and to my surprise it has bushed out and has a few little figs on it.  And the tree at UCD is Blanc.  

But I will say this...if you have Calvert---treasure it and baby that dude!  In my opinion, the taste is similar to CdD-B.  My Calvert died to the ground last year.  I started pumping weekly feeds of Florialicious Plus.  Now its taller than ever and has figs on.  So for those with CdD-B growing slow----give Florialicious Plus a try. 
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Will swing by the Hydroponics place on the way home and pick up Florialicious Plus for sure this evening
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The only fig tree they're giving out samples of is the CdD Blanc (some type Blanche - both mean white).  They have CdD Noir but it's too young to give out cuttings.
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I would add that there are two healthier strains of CdD Blanc available through collectors in the US, they are the original Belleclare Col de Dame Blanc and Baud's CdD Blanc. Both clearly outperform the USDA variant.
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picked up a small bottle of the Floralicious® Plus, expensive stuff but from what I have read well worth it to use once a week. 1/2 teaspoon for 2.5 gallons should last a long time.. will do as posted on this thread, 1 time a week and see what happens to the fruit and the trees.. thanks for the suggestion.
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I got a nice CdD cutting from UC Davis back in the spring. I buried the cuttings sideways in good potting soil and kept in partial shade (my preferred way of rooting now). They are doing great. One has produced a 2 ft stalk, the other the same plus another two small trunks. It is not a slow grower for me. I am looking forward to trying my first CdD figs next year.
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Thanks, question, from the sideway cutting in potting soil, from one cutting, how many plants do you get? do you then cut the cutting in all the stops you see leaves forming or shoots happening?
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Thanks, question, from the sideway cutting in potting soil, from one cutting, how many plants do you get? do you then cut the cutting in all the stops you see leaves forming or shoots happening?



I try for one bushy plant from each cutting. I could probably cut the developing bush in two, but I don't want to risk the plant by cutting it. This allows lots of points for rooting and lots of trunks to develop in case one of them dries out and dies in the first year (a common problem I have because I travel a lot).

I have had something like 75-80% success rate with this method. It has worked far better for me than anything else I have tired.
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