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newnandawg

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27 hours to go and its up to 265.00
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How many do you want @ that $$?
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It's really not that expensive - free shipping and all... ;)

Giddy Up!
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Its still shy of the 385.00 the other day but still long ways to go
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I was joking. The $385 was an outlier. Even 'only' $265 is very impressive. :)
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Well,I hope the bidders for this one are ging to pay for the item,because the Ronde de Bordeaux I sold before ,the auction winner did not pay for it once realized how much they bid.
So if you are not going to buy it ,do not bid ,please.
Some people act like children on Ebay!
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Are you going to put it on Ebay again?
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Wow, very sorry to hear that.
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He didn't pay?  That's disgusting!  Sorry Herman!  I hope you gave him a bad buyer's review!  Can't buyers be banned for that kind of behavior?

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He could of easily made his money back by selling cuttings and air layering such a large tree.
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That's sad for the other buyers who wanted your fig and were outbid.
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Yes!  It's something called Second Chance Offer.  We know a couple members here who really wanted that tree.  I hope you can give them a second chance.

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Well I can do that but not before I wait ,4 more days after the first five days,it took to open a ,not paid Item case.
Only when Ebay agree to close the case and refund me the Fees,Inception fee and after sale fee ,which in this case is kind of large amount,then I can list it again or offer a second chance buy.
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Vasile I'm sorry to hear that happened. Isn't there something that ,for future bidders, you could state in your listing that they must have a proven track record in positive feedbacks? I remember seeing listings stating that and would not accept bids otherwise. I don't know how you would negate those though. Been a long time since I've sold items and rules are always changing.
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Herman you can put in your listing also that buyer has to pay in  24-48 hours after the auction closed.
Some buyers and sellers on eBay are disgusting but the most are honest and nice people.
Sorry, Herman that this happened to you.
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Unfortunately, the willingness to pay those prices for this fig is why we have fraudsters like the recent one posted here.

No fig is worth that much money, sorry. I give my RDB away for free to locals. I wish everyone else would do the same. There are better tasting figs out there which are more popular and cost less money. Go buy a Negronne. It's also French!
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Almost up to 300 now. I'd sell my RDB for half that. It would pay my fig winterization bill.
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These prices are scary.

For goodness sakes its a common fig variety with nothing special. What are these people smoking?
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That is why I don't sell on EBay because I don't know what will I do with that much money !

On a second thought may be I can use it to buy more potting soil with it for potting after root-pruning otherwise i will have to recycle the pots soil.
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Don't forget to give that guy a bad rating and bad comments - I hate people who bid, take chances away from others, and then don't come through!
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Maybe they are ebay trolls.  Lurking around to antagonize and start a commotion.  I maybe one of the few people who have never purchased anything on ebay - heck I think I've been to the site 10-12 times at most.
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Well it probably did not help H2 that so many members said things such as "no tree is worth that amount" etc after the last auction. I doubt most members would pay so much, but I still think they would have liked to be rewarded for their work. So as much as I agree that it is expensive and way out of my price range I would never try to hurt his business. Maybe it was a troll with some sort of grudge, maybe it was someone who got excited an then felt like a fool after the auction when they read comments here on F4F. None of my business really.
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Unfortunately, Ebay is in it to make money.  The higher the price, the more money their % gets them!  They encourage overbidding.  Once you place a bid, you get the dreaded email "You've been outbid."  So you go over and up the ante, and so it goes.  They try to get you to really bid high with their Maximum bid, so some people put in outrageous maximum bids, thinking that it will discourage the bidding competition, but often it does not, and they could end up paying waay more than they are seriously willing to pay. 

Ebay is very happy though.  So is their partner in crime, PayPal.  They both make money off the bidding/selling system.

I have been guilty of overbidding, but never got stuck, but my favorite way to buy is to skip the bids and just buy it now.  The price is what it is!  I get what I want with no surprises.

I certainly hope Herman gets a decent price for his Ronde De Bordeaux next time around.

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That is some good insight Suzi. It amazes me that there are so many "strategies" for winning on eBay.
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OMG!  OVER $305 and still 7 hours to go.  I'll let you guys watch the price rise.  I have football to watch today!!

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They try to get you to really bid high with their Maximum bid, so some people put in outrageous maximum bids, thinking that it will discourage the bidding competition, but often it does not, and they could end up paying waay more than they are seriously willing to pay.


Anyone who puts in a bid so high they know they do not want to pay is being irresponsible. Sorry, that's sheer stupidity. But as they say, a fool and their money are soon parted. If you are tempted to put in a bid that you know you don't want to pay, don't do it - it's not just you who are hurt by reneging on a bid, it's all the sellers whose businesses are harmed.
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I would like to put a little input on the recent events involving ebay and selling and the big "?" about the RDB.

I am not here to start another debate or a fight. I am a man of reason and I try to work things out but sometimes things get out of hand.

I was recently contacted by a member that has a very large collection and his opinions are very credible.
He told me the RDB that the not so known seller was/is selling could infact be an "RDB". He went on by saying that the reason why his RDB looks the way it looks is because of the possibilties of being in the greenhouse and/or over watering. He also went on by saying his is one of Bauds RDB's he has.
I don't want to go on and on so here is what I think.

Could have we been wrong? At this point I think and my opnion is the scale of justice has been tilted. Bridges have been burned and the damage has been done. Not only with the seller but with a certain (ex)member. And I cannot go with a guitly conscience.

I want to be the first to say I am sorry.

I wish Vasile and everyone selling this and every other fig the best of luck, including the man that was questioned.

Good luck to all and happy figging.
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Rafed:The false Ronde De Bordeaux was described as being grown in the Ground and resisting Winter just fine.
So your friend explanation  does not hold water.
My Ronde de Bordeaux is also in Ground and it had a lots of rain this year in my climate,I can say tones of rains this year,while ripening,yet it maintained the shape and color ,Ronde de Bordeaux suppose to have.
The only wrong person in all these discussion,was the seller of the misnamed plant period.
Nobody else is wrong.
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YIKES!  $385 now with time to go!

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I'm speechless. 

Maybe it pays to have an auction end on a Sunday when people may have a little extra time on their hands.
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Do you think this bidder was someone who got outbid on the other, and saw what that went for, yet didn't know the buyer never paid, so thinks this is a very rare and valuable tree?

I will say Herman marketed it well!!
 

Fig Tree, Ronde de Bordeaux, Rare cultivar,tasty and hardy!


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This still is a rare and valuable tree. Show of hands, who has a 2+year old RdB?

I just hope it is not the same person from a different account causing trouble.
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Again I say wow and congrats to Vasile ! Hoping for a better outcome for him this time . :-)
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Three eighty five. Wow.
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Did I read that correctly? The RDB auction that ended 9/14 hit $385 (but didn't pay), and the auction that ended today hit $385? And there was recently a lively debate over an ebay RDB auction?
Hmmmmmm......
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I hope Herman comes in here and tells us if the high bidder actually paid, because this sort of smacks manipulation by Ebay... Not the seller.  EBAY.  The only one who truly wins!

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Manipulation in what way?  If the buyer does not pay Ebay makes nothing as the posters fees are refunded.  
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I hope Herman gets paid, if you bid you better be prepared to pay what you bid, period. Having said that, I have no idea why anyone would bid so high for one tree regardless of the variety. I think people do get caught up in the competition of the bidding process. Way over my head for price. I think I will be propagating for sale next year.
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Barry,

Between RDB and JT you could make thousands!

I would also like to use this post to give props to drivewayfarmer for offering his surplus RDB's a few months ago at a reasonable price. Thank you again!
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I hope he gets paid too!  Selling on Ebay is a pain!  And he went through the whole thing.  Not his fault Ebay manipulates by sending those "you've been outbid" emails to all the bidders, and to the watchers, " You need to bid." or something like that.  EBAY wants your money!! 

Herman will be kind enough, and I'm sure of this (as I am of all forum members who sell on Ebay), to send members of 3 years plus who actually participate in this forum, fig cuttings.  We may not get the 2 year old babies, but... it is what it is.

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And this is why some sellers request a minimum feedback rating before you bid.

Hope Vasile gets paid
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That's not 'manipulation' Suzi. People need to take personal responsibility for their own actions and not depend on someone else to stop them from doing stupid things. Of course ebay wants your money - most businesses do. Learn to 'just say no'. ;)
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This bidder is not a new person on ebay, he/she has a record of purchases, so hopefully will honor their bid
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I hope they honor their bid too, because one of our treasured members here is the seller. 

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Maybe it's being bid up by the other seller of the potential RDB as payback?

I have never seen anything like what's going on over something as inconsequential as a plant. That Cajun fig guy is reporting he received a death threat from somebody over what is and isn't a RDB.
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Gina, I don't know how to quote on here so:
"People need to take personal responsibility for their own actions and not depend on someone else to stop them from doing stupid things. "
Right on!
YOU bid and YOU win the bid, YOU bought it!, It's not rocket science.


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i really don't understand why the price of fig tree is so high on ebay. i mean, it's good that the seller is getting what they deserve and all, but when you can just get a cutting and grow a tree, it seems insane to pay $260 for a tree.
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The eBay seller who has Paradiso as RdB certainly made out better than he would have otherwise. Lets say he is the one doing the fake bidding, he inflates the price, prevents serious bidders from buying the real deal, and offers a false replacement for anyone fool enough to take it.

Take that "death threat" with a grain or twelve of salt, he was not kicked of 2 forums for being honest...
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Gina, You are so right!!
Ebay is a good vehicle to sell just about anything.  I have over 1000 transactions and yes, there has been a few problems, but no more than the problems I would experience if I were in a brick and mortar retail store.  I have had "NO PAY" sales, I turned around and re-listed it or contacted the second bidder.  The biggest problems I have had involved the shipping, good ole USPS.

Caveat Emptor also applies to the seller

This is my opinion, debate will not change it, I live with my actions and opinions.
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That's my point. The only one who would have motive for bidding up that tree is the guy selling the other tree. And all Ebay will do im sure is a slap on the wrist.
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