Re Kadota Fig Tree

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pacifica

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Posted 1468264873	Reply with quote #1

I am thinking to buy 2 gal Kadota, but I have heard some negative responds about this Kadota such as tough skin, slow fruit, fair taste etc. Any further commend by return will be much appreciated.

Elfarach

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Posted 1468266109	Reply with quote #2

I have 2 different strains of Kadota and they are different in taste. Being that I bought them from a big box store, one could be a mis-label. One is typical of what I hear from east coast people, small to medium with an amber color and a sugary taste but my other is a deep red interior color with a very berry taste, both have different leaf patterns also. I would never get rid of them cause any extra fig is a plus in my book... If you have the space and what you pay for it wouldn't bother you, I'd say get it... One more thing, I get brebas around this time and main crop in late aug and on, not sure if they'd be great for your area... __________________ Simon C. So. Cal (El Monte) Zone 10a Wish list: Adriatic JH, Raspberry Latte, Violet de Sollies, Col de Dame Black, Ischia Black, Takoma Violet

pacifica

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Posted 1468266850	Reply with quote #3

Quote: Originally Posted by Elfarach I have 2 different strains of Kadota and they are different in taste. Being that I bought them from a big box store, one could be a mis-label. One is typical of what I hear from east coast people, small to medium with an amber color and a sugary taste but my other is a deep red interior color with a very berry taste, both have different leaf patterns also. I would never get rid of them cause any extra fig is a plus in my book... If you have the space and what you pay for it wouldn't bother you, I'd say get it... One more thing, I get brebas around this time and main crop in late aug and on, not sure if they'd be great for your area... Hi Simon, Thanks for your quick responds. My concern is whether the skin is tough to eat or not. Besides whether Kadota is very slow for fruit and grow or not. Can you give me some information of these as well with thanks.

Luzzu

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Posted 1468268416	Reply with quote #4

Hi Pacifica my uncle is 90 years old and it's is favorite fig so it is a matter of preference happy figging __________________ Brampton, ON Zone 5b

pacifica

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Posted 1468271837	Reply with quote #5

Quote: Originally Posted by Luzzu Hi Pacifica my uncle is 90 years old and it's is favorite fig so it is a matter of preference happy figging Hi Luzzu. Thanks again for sending me the cuttings of Kadota last year, but sorry to tell you that they were all gone due to my careless. I actually saw one in Canadian Tire at C$24.99 potted in 2 gal yesterday. Noted that Kadota requires hot weather to produce fruits and growth etc which I am not sure if it is suitable for Vancouver, B.C. climate. Please guide me for decision by return as it was only one left in Canadian Tire Store.

ross

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Posted 1468273218	Reply with quote #6

Kadota is one of those varieties that can fruit two figs on the same node. There aren't many that do that. Mine is loaded this year. 25% of the nodes have a double fig on it. __________________ Ross - Zone 6B/7A - Philadelphia My Cultivar List / Pictures! / My YouTube

pacifica

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Posted 1468276300	Reply with quote #7

Quote: Originally Posted by ross Kadota is one of those varieties that can fruit two figs on the same node. There aren't many that do that. Mine is loaded this year. 25% of the nodes have a double fig on it. Thanks Ross. How is the taste of yours ? Is skin tough or more thick ?

kiwibob

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Posted 1468277509	Reply with quote #8

Pacifica, In my opinion, Kadota shouldn't be grown north of Oregon if not north of California as it needs more heat than we get in the Pacific Northwet! Paully might have another opinion relative to your climate. kiwibob, Seattle __________________ See my Website: http://sites.google.com/site/kiwifruitsalad2

ricky

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Posted 1468280136	Reply with quote #9

I have a bady kodota fig tree from cutting, it doesn't grow well in our cool climate, I have seen couple "Dokato" in lowe's of Richmond, nobody buy it. If you can get free or low cost cuttings, it is fine to try it. or wait for Canadian tire, when nobody buy it, They might sell their " Dokato" for $13 like " Brown turkey" earlier . __________________ - BC, Canada, PNW Zone 8 with windy ( Zone7 - branches damage at winter) - Wish list - Granthams Royal, RdB, any heavy breba varieties or early one crop varieties.

Smyfigs

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Posted 1468281468	Reply with quote #10

Im in So Cal & my Kadota is very good & skin is not thick at all. Good luck! __________________ Meg-Hardiness Zone 10a Looking for... Socorro Blk Wuhan Jolly Tiger Lamperia Preta Herschtetten St. Jean Black Ischia "The best way to show my gratitude is to accept everything, even my problems, with joy." ~ Mother Teresa "Do not pass by a man in need for you may be the hand of God to him." ~Proverbs 3:27~ "He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted." ~Job 5:4

pacifica

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Posted 1468283565	Reply with quote #11

Quote: Originally Posted by Smyfigs Im in So Cal & my Kadota is very good & skin is not thick at all. Good luck! Thanks for your respond.

Elfarach

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Posted 1468284001	Reply with quote #12

Completely forgot to mention the skin. Mine are not tough at all and very thin skinned... As far as growth goes, they are slower but I'm positive it's because I keep them in pots. There's no comparing growth of my 2 year old potted figs to my only 2 year old in-ground fig. __________________ Simon C. So. Cal (El Monte) Zone 10a Wish list: Adriatic JH, Raspberry Latte, Violet de Sollies, Col de Dame Black, Ischia Black, Takoma Violet

pacifica

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Posted 1468284816	Reply with quote #13

Quote: Originally Posted by Elfarach Completely forgot to mention the skin. Mine are not tough at all and very thin skinned... As far as growth goes, they are slower but I'm positive it's because I keep them in pots. There's no comparing growth of my 2 year old potted figs to my only 2 year old in-ground fig. Thanks very much Simon

pacifica

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Posted 1468284925	Reply with quote #14

Quote: Originally Posted by ricky I have a bady kodota fig tree from cutting, it doesn't grow well in our cool climate, I have seen couple "Dokato" in lowe's of Richmond, nobody buy it. If you can get free or low cost cuttings, it is fine to try it. or wait for Canadian tire, when nobody buy it, They might sell their " Dokato" for $13 like " Brown turkey" earlier . Thanks Ricky ! I just bought the last one from Cantire

ross

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Posted 1468332224	Reply with quote #15

Quote: Originally Posted by pacifica Thanks Ross. How is the taste of yours ? Is skin tough or more thick ? Pacifica, I had no idea you were in Canada. Definitely don't go with this one, haha. Kadota is a zone 8+ fig. Needs a lot of heat & a longer season. Fortunately I can get an earlier start than most zone 7's, so it works for me. I would recommend this to anyone in a hotter climate for productivity alone. Cajun Gold is another, but there are tastier figs. Hope that helps! __________________ Ross - Zone 6B/7A - Philadelphia My Cultivar List / Pictures! / My YouTube

ricky

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Posted 1468358151 · Edited	Reply with quote #16

Hi Ross: USDA zone system telling how cold in our area, but it lacks of ability to tell you how cool our summer is. Our weather is mild winter, very cool summer. Rightnow, our average outdoor temperature is still less than 70F/20C, Some varieties need lots of heat to develop much better taste. What is your average outdoor temperature now? We sure love to try Cajun Gold, it is a very high productivity tree, but very hard to get fig cutting in Canada, I have LSU gold , it won't be as productivity as Cajun Gold. __________________ - BC, Canada, PNW Zone 8 with windy ( Zone7 - branches damage at winter) - Wish list - Granthams Royal, RdB, any heavy breba varieties or early one crop varieties.

pacifica

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Posted 1468364428	Reply with quote #17

Quote: Originally Posted by ricky Hi Ross: USDA zone system telling how cold in our area, but it lacks of ability to tell you how cool our summer is. Our weather is mild winter, very cool summer. Rightnow, our average outdoor temperature is still less than 70F/20C, Some varieties need lots of heat to develop much better taste. What is your average outdoor temperature now? We sure love to try Cajun Gold, it is a very high productivity tree, but very hard to get fig cutting in Canada, I have LSU gold , it won't be as productivity as Cajun Gold. Hi Ricky, Is Vancouver / Richmond in Zone 8B ? It should be good for Kadota according to Ross

ricky

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Posted 1468367717 · Edited	Reply with quote #18

Ross area is warmer than our area, Rightnow, Its average 80F/27C, warmer than our area of 70F/20C Kadota(Dottato, Florentine, White Kadota) Medium, skin is yellowish green, flesh amber, tinged pink at center. Flavor rich. Resists souring. Little or no breba crop. Tree upright, requires annual pruning to slow growth. Requires hot, dry climate for best quality. What do you think? __________________ - BC, Canada, PNW Zone 8 with windy ( Zone7 - branches damage at winter) - Wish list - Granthams Royal, RdB, any heavy breba varieties or early one crop varieties.

pacifica

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Posted 1468373920	Reply with quote #19

Thanks for your valuable informations Ricky. I was supposed to bring it back to Cantire for refund after dinner, then on my way back home, I changed my mind to keep it because I am thinking to pot it in a 5 gal bucket for one year to see how it goes. if it is not doing well, then I will give it to my relatives accordingly.

Nickdef

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Posted 1468527619	Reply with quote #20

I have a. 4 year old Kadota in a pot. This year it is loaded with figs and is growing fast here in NJ.

pacifica

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Posted 1468536478	Reply with quote #21

How is the fruit taste of your Kadota ? Is fruit skin soft or tough ? Did you get fruits the next year ? Thanks.............

115foxron

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Posted 1468647131	Reply with quote #22

I found this topic extremely interesting. I bought several White Kadota cuttings this past winter with many rooted and growing strongly. Since my biggest ones are only around a foot tall, I will have none his year and I don't expect any next year either but I do look forward to the day that I will have my own figs to enjoy. I have to say, the main reason I was attracted to this variety was the twisty, knurly and undisciplined branches it appears to have. I think it is going to make a great looking tree on a front porch, patio or deck. One of the cuttings looked like a seven fingered hand which had to be rooted in a little bit of an unconventional way. But it did root and so far three of the fingers have nice healthy potential main trunks shooting upward with several nice leaves. I put it in a 5 gal. wide pot right from the start so I would not have to disturb it for hopefully the first 2 full years. Most of my new rooted cuttings get the 1 gal or 2 gal treatment but I give some the 5w if I plan to make them one of my mother trees. I hope I did not get too far off the subject but I hope to post a pic or two later on of them and look forward to more comments on fig tastes and observations. Pennsylvania 6b __________________

pacifica

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Posted 1468714701	Reply with quote #23

Wen I bought my Kadota fig tree in a local shop here in Vancouver, Canada, the tag shows Kadota only. I am not sure if mine is white kadota or what. Anu different between the two ? white Kadota or simply Kadota ?

ross

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Originally Posted by ricky
Ross area is warmer than our area, Rightnow, Its average 80F/27C, warmer than our area of 70F/20C

Kadota(Dottato, Florentine, White Kadota)

Medium, skin is yellowish green, flesh amber, tinged pink at center. Flavor rich. Resists souring. Little or no breba crop. Tree upright, requires annual pruning to slow growth. Requires hot, dry climate for best quality.

What do you think?

That is a pretty good description. Although my tree has historically set lots of brebas. Really it's just an incredibly productive tree. It's the most popular fig in Italy if I'm not mistaken. I would not recommend this for the PNW. This baby needs heat!

You can check my spreadsheet in my signature, but the Kadota fig family is one of the largest. These are what I find to be similar to Kadota:

Kadota	Banana
	Bebera Branca
	Dottato
	Excel
	Moscatel Branco
	Peter's Honey
	Pingo de Mel
	White Texas Everbearing

Some may be synonyms, but without genetic testing we may never know. There's also White Kadota & Janice Seedless Kadota. I wouldn't worry too much about the name. Finding a good strain is the most important thing. Many say Peter's Honey is the best strain and I also hear White Texas Everbearing (JF&E) is quite good as well. Mine was labelled "Kadota" which I bought from Lowes.
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pacifica

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Posted 1468778210	Reply with quote #25

Thanks Ross for your further details. Since I have bought 2 gal Kadota (not sure if white Kadota or not) and I hate to take it back to the shop for the refund to create trouble for people. I have decided to challenge myself simply by potting it and keep it in a shade area for a week. Hopefully I can keep it healthy under our climate and see if I can expect some fruits next summer or not. So far the responds are 50% suggested that I should give it a try and 40% said NO and 10% myself unsure. Time can tell !!!

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