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Hie all at its the last month of Autumn here down under and i am rooting some MBVS (very rare here) as well as some pink picone cuttings. 

I am rooting in the same medium as i did during the summer but i added perlite to the coir. The results have been rather explosive with the MBvs with roots doubling size within a day. Since the cuttings are rooting in close proximity near my working space its easy to feel eager to know how they are doing. These roots were half the size they were yesterday!

I did an experiment in rooting this time comparing parts of the cutting that have been cut into, exposing the cambium layer and then adding a bit of clonex. As you can see in the images below the area that i cut into has now healed (white streaks) and from there roots are pushing out. For heat i am using a hot water bottle filled with some hot water, with and i place a thick folded shirt between the tub and the hot water bottle. and place a jacket over the tub to conserve as much warmth as possible. I usually have to change the water once a day on most days but when we have some cold days i change it twice, depending on how long i am away from home because of work/university.

My pink picone cuttings are taking their time, only just pushing root bumps, but the MBvs cuttings are powering ahead despite both being placed in the rooting mix the same day just minutes apart. i will be potting them up in a day or two in individual pots and place them in a DIY grow tent....e.g a container lined with tin foil and a grow light  at the top.  [xEoOgSG]

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I think I will try this....looks good!
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What is a hot water bottle. ??? I want to try usi g your system too. Nice work. I have clonex never used it much on figs
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A hot water bottle is like a rubber bladder that you fill with hot water if your bed is cold. they look like this: 

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Nice results. 
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Congratulations!
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Cool.  I rarely use clonex on figs, because the roots go crazy, but the darn thing doesn't want to leaf out forever.  In some cases it killed the cutting before it could get leaves.  I have used it a few times on cuttings that just wouldn't wake up, but I always regretted it.  Now, I just wait.
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Speaking of crazy roots: i potted them up today in 80% coir +perlite and 20% potting mix and sprinkled some chook pellets. They are now under a grow light along with some smaller fig trees. This is my first time growing under lights. Hopefully they do well. 

Light spec: 2x 55w 6500k T8 (2 foot) on a timer for 12 hours 

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Thanks for this info. Maybe I'll try this with my stubborn Adriatic cutting.
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Thanks for this info. Maybe I'll try this with my stubborn Adriatic cutting.


no worries. I found out that bottom heat is very essential for fast root development.

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Hi figcolt
Do you put your whole cutting under all the media length ways? None of the cutting stick out? How often would u water? Thanks

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Do you put your whole cutting under all the media length ways? None of the cutting stick out? How often would u water? Thanks


Hie there. I put about 2 inches of the mix at the bottom of the container and then lay them horizontally. exposing about the top 1/3 of the cutting. I then cover the rest of the cutting with another 2-3 inches.

In terms of watering, as i use coir, i do not add any extra water. the only water i add is from when  hydrate the coir. I then squeeze as much as possible and mix with perlite. I only water when i pot up the plants in their new pots when the mixture looks/feels dry as the new roots start taking up water..

Hope this helps. 

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So the only water it gets is the initial soaking/damping of the coir?? I didnt think it needed so little.

Also since you submerge the whole cutting in medium would you need light on your tray of cuttings? i can get these foam boxes with lids which would be great in retaining the heat especially with your hotwater bottle trick.

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So the only water it gets is the initial soaking/damping of the coir?? I didnt think it needed so little.

Also since you submerge the whole cutting in medium would you need light on your tray of cuttings? i can get these foam boxes with lids which would be great in retaining the heat especially with your hotwater bottle trick.

thanks


I thought so too but coir retains a good level of moisture after squeezing which is good. Once you hydrate it and then wash it, if you squeeze the water out by hand there is enough in there for the cutting, believe me haha. Some people have had rotting cuttings due to making their coir too wet. The problem with coir is that if you water it, it absorbs all that water and very little drains at the bottom because its very absorbent. Think of it as a sponge. The heat makes the sealed container nice and humid so i think it evenly spreads the moisture? 

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Ahhhh, so you put a lid on that clear plastic tub?
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yep for the humidity and also to trap some heat.. I open it every a or every 2 days for a few seconds and then close it again for  "fresh air". 
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