They are similar but to say that they come from The same ancient mother tree ,it will be a mistake.
You see some of these cultivars have fig mosaic virus some are healthy,also,some resist better to cold due to better adaptation,some do not.
So if you have one cultivar,that do not grow well in your area,try some other cultivar related to it with similar fruits,and you will be surprised of the different results,and size of harvest.
That is because of the different location,and climate,that it came from and adapted to.
So tho,it appear I am contradicted myself,the answer is:No,they are not and do not perform the same.
Maybe they were,2000 years ago,but time and climate where they were grown,made them different,today,because of the adaptation,they needed to acquire,in the fight for survival, in the new locations,they were taken to be grown by man.
I,Can't make Apricot,fruit in NJ,but I can Make Fig do,because fig is much more adaptable than Apricot.

Thanks Herman,

Personally it would make me feel better to keep them seperate. Otherwise I would have 7 seperate trees of the same variety. :-)

Absolutely Cecil,keeping the original names give you a chance to see the differences between them ,and see which one perform best for you.
Once you find out,then,later on,if you do not have room for a new cultivar you acquire,then you dig out the worse one and aether send it to better climates,or just discard it .
That is how I select the best specimens,for my climatic conditions.
As you know I grow all my figs in ground and they are selected for cold ,rain,superior taste and flavor,and disease resistance,using the above method.

Thanks Herman,

Here is my Pane e Vino tree - photo taken 2 days ago. 

The tree was a gift from our fig friend Lou P, a small rooted cutting in September 2009.  Not sure if it's a PV white or dark.  The cutting really took off last year, and is growing well this year also - in an upright growth fashion, so I kept in "tree" form rather than a bush.  Has not fruited for me yet.  

Compared to my other trees, this one is a late bloomer - the embryos are just forming now - most of my other fig trees have quarter-sized figs on them.  Fingers crossed for some ripe figs from it this year.

In any event, I think the Pane e Vino is a beautifully-shaped tree!






 

Hi Joe,
like you said beautiful shape tree.   ; )

Bass nice looking dark fig picture thanks for sharing.

If you change the names of these varieties you loose the rich recent history behind them. Just a thought.

I have one lonely fig on my PEV dark (potted) but it is looking like it will be ripe soon.

Does anyone know anything about the strain of Panevino listed on this year's cuttings list? I refer to the one that does not specify the color. Thanks!

Maybe it would be good to adopt a systematic approach along the the vein of F. carica cv Napolitana Blanca var. Pan e Vin? I am not a taxonomist, and don't play one on TV, but something like this might avoid confusion and preserve the historical information. Of course, it would be good to have some verification of the accuracy vis a vis genetic testing, so maybe this is just a pipe dream for now.

I wanted to bump this one back up because I also would like to know the answer to the question that go4broek has asked.

 What is the variety that is labeled as just "Panevino"?

I see these 3 listed at F4F:

Panevino Dark

Panevino White 

Panevino

I assume "Panevino" would be the same as either the Panevino Dark or Panevino White rather than a 3rd different variety.

I got cuttings for all 3 of these from Encanto this year, and just would like to know what "Panevino" is and if there is a reason why its listed as its own variety.

Thanks!

A couple years ago I collected this variety. There were 3 trees planted, one dark one white and a 3rd one that I didn't see fruit on so I left it labeled as Pan e vino. I believe Jon got cuttings from me at some point. A big possibility it is the same as the Panevino Dark. 

Bass,

I spoke to you about that tree when I discovered it growing near the PV White.

Mine rooted cutting that I took from that tree has produced fruits and do you recall we talked it over when I made you aware of its existence. Than you the met Nino at his eatery and told him of the tree that was located at the old restraunt and he told you it was the same tree as the red.

For what it's worth mine has fruited last year and from what I can tell it looks to be the same tree as the Pane e Vino Red.

I’ll make sure this season and if it all goes well post photos of the three figs labeled and laying next to each other. If it looks questionable I will post leaves as well.

Lou

Thank you Bass and Lou!

So, it actually is from a different tree then. I am so glad I asked.

So according to Lou, it would be a different variety all together being a red?

Should I be calling/labelling it Pane e Vino Red then as Lou suggests?

Again, thank you much for all this info! I am so glad I went ahead and got all 3.

Whent they start growing, I will post leaf pics if you would like of all 3 PV's.

Bass,

Do you still have a tree of the 3rd Pan E Vino (Pan E Vino Red) as Lou refers to it in his post to you?

Curious if you ever saw fruit from it?

I know it will be very interesting and enjoyable for me as I grow out the cuttings of these 3 PVs. I look very forward to it.

Hi there, I wanted to bump this one back up to see if anyone ever got to try or take a picture of what is called just Pan E Vino, a possible 3rd different tree that is Red (please refer to post #40 above from Lou) I still have
Pan E Vino Dark
Pan E Vino White
Pan E Vino (possible 3rd tree that is Red)

I have not gotten fruit from my "red" one yet, and just curious if anyone has what is referred to as just "Pan E Vino".

Thank you!!!!

This is an interesting thread. I'm glad I took the time to read it since I am growing Pane e Vino Dark. 

Pezzuto9 wrote above "For what it's worth mine has fruited last year and from what I can tell it looks to be the same tree as the Pane e Vino Red."

When I read this my first thought was that he/she inadvertently replaced the word "dark" with "red" and that he/she really meant to say that it looks the same as Pane e Vino Dark.  This is total speculation but there was no prior reference to Pane e Vino Red above.  Maybe Pezzuto9 or Bass can chime in and clear this up.

It looks like it is he same variety as the Pane e Vino dark.
Lou

Thank you Lou,,,,,

So there was never a 3rd tree from the restaurant? So Pan e vino dark IS the red fig? And there are only 2 Pan e Vino varieties?

There's no red pane e vino tree, there was two dark ones and the white.

So is it safe to say if I have a red sicilian it is close enough that I don't need a pan e vino dark?

Bass, thank you for your help,

So just to clarify,

There was a 3rd tree (Pan E Vino), however it was also dark? If so, do you think it is the same variety as Pan E Vino Dark, or another similar dark variety? I just want to know if I should call It Pan E Vino Dark, or still keep it as a separate tree as just Pan E Vino since it was a different tree?

Thank you! Christy

Ryan, I haven't compared a Red Sicilian with the Pane e vino dark. 

Christy,
Good question, I didn't see fruit on the 3rd tree, but Lou did say it's the same dark fig. 

Me and Lou gave a tree of each of those back to the original owner and were planted at his house. He did tell me stories about his father planting the garden with different fruit trees. He had 6 fig trees in that garden at once, but were neglected after his father passed away and we now have what remained.