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Originally Posted by timmy2green
I seem to recall a discussion last year when we were talking about plugs where someone mentioned using this stuff.  I don't know if they ever gave an update on whether it worked.  I'm just wondering, in addition to breathability, if the rest of the cutting will dry out that isn't in the gel; assuming only an inch or two will be submerged?


Tim,

I don't remember this product last year, yet I do remember the Root Riot threads.

I Plan to seal the exposed end and still keep the cuttings in a humidity bin.

Makes sense. Yeah for the life of me I can't recall where it came up but we certainly did talk root riot at nausium last yr. it was like a 24-7 ad for their products on here. I never did get around to tryin those babies. I def recall hearing about the gel for the first time last winter though. Well good luck I hope it works amazingly!

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Originally Posted by timmy2green
Makes sense. Yeah for the life of me I can't recall where it came up but we certainly did talk root riot at nausium last yr. it was like a 24-7 ad for their products on here. I never did get around to tryin those babies. I def recall hearing about the gel for the first time last winter though. Well good luck I hope it works amazingly!


It's quite possible that I missed the gel thread, I was not on the forum as much last year.   I'll keep this thread updated with the progress... or lack there of. ... or failure. 

The gel only covers the easiest first step of rooting, usually cuttings go through this ok.
The next step would be the uppotting or potting in the soil. That is when they die.
How different the rooted in the gel cuttings pass the transition vs. the cuttings rooted in the paper towel/ coco ?
That is THE question.

That is a good point Greenfig. I'm interested to see if the directions suggest leaving the gel intact or removing it when potting. Also, what is the difficulty level of removing the gel and cutting from the cup without damaging the roots.

I will do my best to keep pics and observations coming throughout the project. 

Scott

Great time lapse video, although I never have problems rooting Coleus.  It will be interesting to see how it works with other plants, particularly woody ones.  Good luck and keep us posted!

I usually soak some pine bark fines in some liquid rooting solution, then place a few on top of my gallon pots so when it is watering time, the hormones will reach the cutting a little at a time.

Instructions on how to use Gel2Root from the manufacturer.

http://www.nugel.co.uk/gel2root-rooting-gel/103

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Originally Posted by Bevman
Instructions on how to use Gel2Root from the manufacturer.

http://www.nugel.co.uk/gel2root-rooting-gel/103


Thanks for the link Arthur. 

They are scheduled to arrive on the 6th of January, I can't wait to get started.

Hi,
Nice video, but as a reminder, coleus do root even easier than fig twigs . So what is the point of using rooting hormone for that ?
They should do that with cherry twigs or pear twigs or ... or persimons twigs ... Well, just saying.
For coleus, put them in plain water in a cup in a nice warm and sunny place and you'll get the same roots ... Sorry to break a rising myth .

Don't they do a video with goose berries or currants or blackberries ... They root and spread themselves even when I don't want them to .

Save your money, I have tested them on hardwood, softwood cuttings on figs, pomegranate, and still didn't root. It may best with softwood cuttings of ornamental at the right temperature. I'll have to do more trial with what I have left.

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Originally Posted by jdsfrance
Hi,
Nice video, but as a reminder, coleus do root even easier than fig twigs . So what is the point of using rooting hormone for that ?
They should do that with cherry twigs or pear twigs or ... or persimons twigs ... Well, just saying.
For coleus, put them in plain water in a cup in a nice warm and sunny place and you'll get the same roots ... Sorry to break a rising myth .

Don't they do a video with goose berries or currants or blackberries ... They root and spread themselves even when I don't want them to .



I don't see any rising myth, just wondered if anyone had seen or used the product.  Coleus would root in a mud puddle by accident, I think they used it for the video due to the short rooting time, hence a shorter time to run the time laps.

I'll try it, with figs and other fruiting plants, who knows.  It might work, it might not, I just want to play.  And from the reading, it is not a rooting hormone, it is a clear soil and nutrient mixture.  More like what is used for tissue culture, I could be wrong, but that's what I read.

Scott

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Originally Posted by Bass
Save your money, I have tested them on hardwood, softwood cuttings on figs, pomegranate, and still didn't root. It may best with softwood cuttings of ornamental at the right temperature. I'll have to do more trial with what I have left.



Interesting.  I hope I have better results Bass, I guess we see over the weeks following it's arrival.

Scott

As Bass said, don't waste your money!!!  The various cuttings that I put in the gel matrix either did not root or they rooted above the gel. All cuttings were by far out performed by other cuttings of their cultivar rooted in the traditIonal manor.  Note, the cuttings that did not root in the gel rapidly developed roots after being cupped in a 50/50 perlite / vermiculite or pure perlite.  

I'll try the gel with other plant types, who knows.

Seems to be an issue with air exchange. I had the idea of rooting with soil moist crystals. (I'm sure not an original idea). I was advised against it for the same reasons.

I was thinking the same.  I still believe it is a viable rooting media, just not for figs. 

I think (but I could be wrong) Rafed tried this stuff as well without stellar results, as well.

The previous two years I pretty much religiously used dip 'n grow (diluted 5-10x) or clonex with good results.  This season I was out of rooting hormone and decided to go ahead with rooting anyway.  I'm getting essentially the same results as I did when I used rooting hormone.  Sometimes the "KISS" principle is a good one to live by.

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