Do you know if Saint Anthony the same as Marseille fig? I've seen them listed as the same fig, and also listed as different figs at some sites.

The one I have that was labeled "St. Anthony seems much closer to Osborn.

See http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_St_Anthony.html

jon,
yours looks much different than this.

See Link No. 024 Vern's Brown Turkey http://www.onegreenworld.com//index.php?cPath=1_27]

And compare with Link No. 367 Negronne http://www.territorialseed.com/product/6792/163

Bet you didn't know that those two figs were the same!!

Jon are they really the same ?
Those two pictures from 2 different sites are the same picture yet named differently or are you just funning with us.  ; )

good catch Jon, just to another addition to the fig naming confusion is all we need.

In 2002 I bought 5 of my 'earlier' figs from EL. One of them was the
Marseilles (I am happy with it). The fruit I got is consistent with the Pic Bass posted (presumed form EL). Maybe less ribed, yellow skin (somewhat spotty)
browns with age. Last couple of years, looking closely,
I noticed  that it actually was(?)/IS listed as Marseilles/OsbornProlific/St. Athony. I contacted Mikey with a pic of my fruit asking what I did get -answer: most likey the OP (See EL.FAQs).
Last year, I ordered another Marseilles fig (from EL), SPECIFICALLY asking for the St. Anthony version. So far I can only tell
that the plant is (somewhat) more vigorous (thicker stem/ bigger leaves - it
could be because of my more intense 'care').  Future fruit may tell all...

Martin, those are real, current pictures of products being currently offered. Is it any wonder that there is so much confusion with fig names, when things like this happen?!!

I realize there are differences in appearance due to location but I thought Marseilles had white or very very pale yellow pulp as per Givan's site.  Mine has the flat ribbed shape, is more a pale green than yellow skin and white pulp w/ rather large seeds.  An extremely similar cultivar is the 1906 Green Italian w/ greener skin , pale orange pulp and much better flavor. Both of these have a distinct bronze sheen on the young leaves and identical mature leaf shape.  Osborne Prolific bears no resemblance whatsoever to either of these and its quite a mystery to me as to why they would be considered  the same.

cmdrzog:

It seems there are a couple plants going under the name Osborne Prolific (and Marseilles as well). 

Superman fan? 

~Chills

Chills 

I understand that but the Marseilles and Osborne Prolific have been described as specific types for quite some time .  Marseilles goes back to at least Jefferson in this country and the Osborne Prolific from UCD has a 1900 date.  Just because a catalog or website makes a statement about them does not change this..  

no s man fan. starships in the 60s

I just noticed this thread and also am interested in unraveling the confusion surrounding the "Marseilles" and the "St. Anthony" fig names. I picked up a Marseilles from Monticello last June and learned that Edible Landscaping provided it to Monticello in the early 1980's when Monticello was redoing their historical gardens, making an attempt to replant varieties that likely existed on the estate during Jefferson's time.

When I contacted Michael McConkey at E.L. to ask about the source of the Marseilles, all he said was that it was a St. Anthony Marseilles - the question about the origin was not addressed and adding another twist, the name St. Anthony was added to the Marseilles name (he called it the St. Anthony Marseilles). He also commented that it may be the same as Oregon Prolific but was note sure. Very confusing and mysterious.

The St. Anthony that R. Watts has came from A.J. Bullard. A.J. got his from Michael McConkey and both A.J. and R.W. retained the name St. Anthony.

It is my current assumption that St. Anthony, the Monticello Marseilles, and St. Anthony Marseilles are all the same. Perhaps there are other figs that historically carried the name Marseilles and St. Anthony separately but I do not have enough information to comment on this.

Does anyone know the source of Edible Landscaping's St. Anthony Marseilles??

Ingevald

It's a big possibility that mike mcConkey got it from a different nursery.
To add to the confusion, Marseilles is a city in France, there are Figue de Marseilles also that looks similar but not the same.

Bump

Jon just shipped my St Anthony cuttings and I'm very interested to compare them with;
Marseilles
Monticello Marseilles
White Marseilles
Peter's Honey
Lattarula
and whatever else is in my collection that turns out to be one of the above but is a renamed fig. It would really be much better if folks would stop renaming figs out of fear they can't sell or trade them as unknowns.

What about Bakio? I read in a thread somewhere they have similarities

Jenny