Sbayi and khurtmani /eselyi again

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elin

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Posted 1413999035 · Edited	Reply with quote #1

Wanted to share some photos of Sbayi fig from this season. they are not so sweet but the skin and inside meat are perfect - each fruit is a good 60 grams but after starting to eat it theres no way of stoping. enjoy. Attached Images Sbayi_(1).JPG (232.49 KB, 186 views) Sbayi_(2).JPG (196.32 KB, 181 views) Sbayi_(3).JPG (249.33 KB, 165 views) Sbayi_(4).JPG (178.72 KB, 169 views) Sbayi_(5).JPG (257.82 KB, 168 views) __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

elin

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Posted 1413999282	Reply with quote #2

btw these are khurtmani /eselyi figs: very sweet skin is a bit velveti as seen . i believe the Sbayi is a different kind of fig thus i cant compare- Both are good. Attached Images Khurtmani_eselyi_(1).JPG (297.10 KB, 111 views) Khurtmani_eselyi_(2).JPG (258.25 KB, 126 views) Khurtmani_eselyi_(3).JPG (181.31 KB, 121 views) __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

armando93223

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Posted 1413999628	Reply with quote #3

Wow, you have access to some good looking figs. Enjoy eating them my friend. __________________ Armando in the Heart of California

elin

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Posted 1413999988 · Edited	Reply with quote #4

tThose tree in the picture are grown on naturally irrigated land thus the figs are so intense i cannot eat more than 20 . i think my pots can do the same or better with some proper fertigation. __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

nelson20vt

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Posted 1414002866	Reply with quote #5

Great looking figs Eli, I had read that Khurtmani was the same as Brunswick clearly not the case. __________________ Mississauga, ON, Canada Z5B/6A

RobSter010

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Posted 1414009677	Reply with quote #6

Eli, when does Sbayi ripen? I would like to get it but if it ripens late i might switch to Khdari for it's breba crop. __________________ Rotterdam / Holland - Zone 8

Otmani007

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Posted 1414025064	Reply with quote #7

Beautiful figs, Eli. Thanks for sharing. __________________ Dallas, TX - Zone 8a Wish List: Col de Dame Blanche, Brogiotto Bianco, Sicilian White, Panache Otmani

elin

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Posted 1414031747 · Edited	Reply with quote #8

Armando , Nelson and Otmani thanks. RS i dont have any tenhnical info on growing them in pots but i will next year. both ripen early to mid season i think , unlike the shtawi of which fruits were green still at the time photos were taken. the Khdari maybe has brebas, i dont know but will document and post when ill have it. next year i will hopefully be able to show these and many other varieties from the Mediterranean in pots. __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

Speedmaster

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Posted 1414035405	Reply with quote #9

Thanks for this topic, really helpful for me. __________________ Weather: Winter: 10C+ Summer: 42C+ Growing: Syrian Unk., Atreano, Egyptian Unk., Lebanese Unk., Col de dame Gris, Beall, Negronne, Ronde de bordeaux, Brogiotto Bianco Wish List: Panache.

Speedmaster

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Posted 1414035605	Reply with quote #10

Quote: Originally Posted by elin unlike the shtawi of which fruits were green still at the time photos were taken. Yeah, it is called Shatwi (winter fig). All my figs are green now. 4 different varieties. I hope they ripen as today was a bit cool. __________________ Weather: Winter: 10C+ Summer: 42C+ Growing: Syrian Unk., Atreano, Egyptian Unk., Lebanese Unk., Col de dame Gris, Beall, Negronne, Ronde de bordeaux, Brogiotto Bianco Wish List: Panache.

elin

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Posted 1414046506 · Edited	Reply with quote #11

speedmaster i wonder what varieties you are grow in Oman, what is the main commercialized fig there? __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

elin

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Posted 1414069892	Reply with quote #12

Nelson condits book says it is a proved brunswick, the leaf shape or skin and meat are different ? Mwazi (syns. Khurtmani, Eseli). Described and illustrated by Grasovsky and Weitz (1932) as one of the best figs for fresh use grown in southern Palestine. Trees are large, but not very prolific; breba crop good. Second-crop figs large, pyriform, with prominent neck; stalk short; eye open, scales purple; skin thin, glossy, greenish, with purple ribs; pulp amber; flavor sweet and delicious. P.I. No. 80,297, introduced into California as Khurtmani, proved to be identical with Brunswick. __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

nelson20vt

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Posted 1414074784	Reply with quote #13

Hi Eli , a couple years ago I also had khurtmani and it too looked like yours purple fruits and mostly 5 lobed some 3 lobed leaves not typical Brunswick leaves this is why I never thought they were the same. I got mine originally from Adriano I will try to find photos on my photobucket acc. __________________ Mississauga, ON, Canada Z5B/6A

Speedmaster

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Posted 1414092383 · Edited	Reply with quote #14

Quote: Originally Posted by elin speedmaster i wonder what varieties you are grow in Oman, what is the main commercialized fig there? None, only cardboard sour fresh figs from Turkey, and dried figs from Iran,Syria, Lebanon, and Turkey again. Local figs are very very very rare. There are wild small figs that people eat. Search for "تين حماط" to see pictures of it. Some people grow figs but most people think figs need chilling hours like apples... __________________ Weather: Winter: 10C+ Summer: 42C+ Growing: Syrian Unk., Atreano, Egyptian Unk., Lebanese Unk., Col de dame Gris, Beall, Negronne, Ronde de bordeaux, Brogiotto Bianco Wish List: Panache.

richar4170

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Posted 1414742838	Reply with quote #15

greetings, is the sbayi, hmari, shtawi, ghazali are self polinated figs? Quote: Originally Posted by elin Wanted to share some photos of Sbayi fig from this season. they are not so sweet but the skin and inside meat are perfect - each fruit is a good 60 grams but after starting to eat it theres no way of stoping. enjoy. __________________ -Richard-

elin

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Posted 1414744461	Reply with quote #16

All or 97% of the fig variety in israel are parthenocarpic , the other 3% is san pedro. I dont know why they choose and bred mostly these varieties over pollinating needing ones, maybe the wasp isnt common here. __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

richar4170

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Posted 1414748615 · Edited	Reply with quote #17

Thanks for the info. Maybe the polinated figs better the qualities. __________________ -Richard-

elin

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Posted 1414760775	Reply with quote #18

For sure pollinated fruit is Lways better. But than again good fertigTion and sun gives us superior figs as well without polination ... __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

armando93223

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Posted 1419375123 · Edited	Reply with quote #19

Eli, I have a question for you. I have this fig that a few collectors have told me that it looks like your Sbayi fig. I see that it looks similar, but I believe its closer to the Celeste Family. In my area of Central California, I remember reading in our local paper that we had a grower here who had a collection of fig trees. I never found the article and so don't know if he introduced this variety to our area. I have only seen 3 trees of this variety within 10 miles of each other....... I don't believe its a Sbayi, do you have any idea...???? Anyone can chime in to my question. http://www.ebay.com/itm/201244608267?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 __________________ Armando in the Heart of California

elin

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Posted 1419381178	Reply with quote #20

The fruit looks similar . The leafs not very , i dont remember it showing those leaf pattern . Even on my young potted tree it show sawtooth pattern on the leafs. Next season ill share more pics. Even if it an unk looks like a winner. __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1419389385	Reply with quote #21

Eli, thanks for the pictorials. Figs looks really good man, perfect treat for the late season. I like the rocky patches in the ground, I think that's what makes figs (in Mediterranean) so delicious.

elin

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Posted 1419407068 · Edited	Reply with quote #22

Aharon you are right , also makes a much attractive pictorial than showing figs on a plate ( real) i will post alot more in the next season from other varieties too. Its strange that there are good local varieties but i dont see any entusiast fig growers from israel/palestine in the forum. Are the people engaged in eating figs instead of growing them and getting into the finesse of the varieties? As we all know the fun part is in the growing too .... __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

armando93223

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Posted 1419446571	Reply with quote #23

Thanks Eli for your quick response. Post pics when you can. Also some cultural or traditional practices that people use figs for. In Mexico and Central America they carmelize them and stuff them with ???? I think a brown sugar. I saw on TV last night a family eating in the Holy City of Jerusalem and the guy said the figs look delicious. __________________ Armando in the Heart of California

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1419450765	Reply with quote #24

Eli, There are a lot of Israelites and Palestinians among us in the forum. They are just humble to brag about it and maybe Politically shy to mention. I am proud of who I am and I don't keep it from sunlight. :)

RichinNJ

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Posted 1419462868	Reply with quote #25

Very interesting Eli. How's that soil in your area? Are you growing in ground or potted figs.

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