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Silicon Protecting Figs from Insect Damage

 

I had initially used Pro-Tekt silicon solution for hardening off green growth for winter after hearing about it on the forums.  But last year I tried it for fig rust on problem trees, and the result was amazing.  It stopped the fig rust - and it also stopped fig splitting.  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/splitting-and-fig-rust-symptoms-of-nutrient-deficiency-8471398?pid=1295387323

I decided to use it on all my figs this year, and have made four applications, starting as the fig buds were beginning to form on the new branches.  On susceptible varieties, leaves that formed before the applications started, showed rust symptoms, but those forming later do not. 

This is Wuhan:

DSC08238  Edited Wuhan fig rust on old leaves 7-15-17 copy.jpg 

As the figs continued to form, I noticed something else – I wasn’t seeing insect damage!  Every year the figs – especially “hairy” ones like Celeste, Florea, Hardy Chicago, etc. – have been attacked by thrips.  (http://www.tswvramp.org/vectors/index.html  See thrips damage on tomatoes towards bottom of link.)  It was early in the fig formation, and I thought it might just be wishful thinking on my part.  Figs are ripening now, and the figs are still unmarked.  This is what the initial thrips damage looks like:

100_1865 Edited Hardy NJ main crop damage copy.jpg  .

  After the sap dries, a brown scar forms. 

DSC02852 Edited Florea thrips damage 7-27-13 copy.jpg 

I’m still seeing sap droplets, but they are much smaller – and the brown scars do not form. 

These small drops are what I’m seeing now.

DSC08189   Edited Celeste damage 7-9-17 copy.jpg 

I’m assuming that the insect is able to pierce the fig and make a hole - but unable to inject saliva – which is probably what causes the brown scarring.

 When I had first posted about silicon on the forums, some folks who used organic methods felt that natural compost materials would provide all necessary nutrients.  I don’t disagree, but I question how much silicon would be available to the fig tree – or how quickly.  The Pro-Tekt is very fast.  Joe Dewhirst found this list of silicon containing plants for those who prefer going the natural route.  It identifies plants with high silicon that would increase the silicon content if incorporated in compost.  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4247092/table/TBL1/    One plant that is attractive, easy to grow almost anywhere, and can be cut regularly is Phalaris arundinacea – Ribbon Grass.  Just be aware it is invasive.

This is the article that contains the table:    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4247092/    

I’ve been trying to fine tune application rate and timing of the Pro-Tekt.  To harden my trees off in the fall, I used 8 oz. in 5 gallons of water which is further diluted by a fertilizer injector set at 1:100.  A tiny amount – 1 cup in 500 gallons (roughly 1 teaspoon in 10 gallons).  At that rate, I water till it runs out of the pot once or twice a week without any problems. 

 Last year for the fig rust susceptible varieties, I used a watering can with 1 teaspoon Pro-Tekt in 2 1/2 gallons of water in three separate applications one month apart.  I didn’t water as heavily as previously.  I didn’t see any problems with the trees with either regimen.  

 This year I increased the Pro-Tekt to 2 cups in 500 gallons once a week, watering until it ran through the pots.  After the fourth application, I noticed leaf curling on some varieties.  The Fico Gentile leaves were the worst.  The newer leaves pointed up and curled. 

DSC08262   edited Fico Gentile showing leaf curling and lifting.JPG 

Other varieties showed a little twisting, but others, none.  You can see that the leaves on the plants behind the Fico Gentile look normal.   I think the combination of a higher concentration, too frequent weekly treatments, soft, lush leaves, and variety susceptibility to silicon caused the problem.  The plants and figs are fine - the problem just seems cosmetic. Next year, I’ll stick with the 1 cup/500 gal./once a week (or less) protocol.  This year, I’ll be treating again next week.  This is my usual start time for hardening off soft growth for winter.    

Once the silicon is deposited in the plant it doesn’t move, so it seems reasonable that silicon should be made available during growth (leaves and fruit) to maintain protection.  I’d appreciate hearing about others’ experience with silicon applications.  This is all new, and I’m just working by trial and error with application rates and frequency.  But one teaspoon per 10 gallons seems to be well tolerated on a weekly basis.

The Pro-Tekt has been a game changer.  It protects against insect attacks and fig rust – fairly minor,  annoying problems in New England.  But to me the biggest impact is with splitting.  Usually, I’d pick anything even close to ripe before rain.  Otherwise It would split and have to be discarded.  Now, I just leave the figs on and wait until they ripen after the rain.  That’s big.

This probably sounds too good to be true – a nutrient that solves insect, fungus and splitting problems.  I know it has me stunned.  When I first mentioned my experiences with silicon, I thought it was some obscure little nutrient.  But apparently, it’s the “hot new thing”.  It’s being used to treat many edible crops.  Even my bags of Sungro potting mix contain it.  The academics doing research don’t know how this stuff works – but it really does! 

 


Thanks for all the information I got my pro-tekt today. Hope it helps with the rust and splitting. Again thanks for all your research you shared. Richie

Richie, I hope it helps.  I also hope you aren't being slammed too hard by Harvey - that thing's a monster.

No Harvey but IRMA is a cat 2 expecting to be a cat 5.

I hope the forecasters are wrong!  I heard them refer to Harvey as a 1000 year storm - and you get two within a week??

Yea it's getting really bad storm wise. Got my Pro-TEKt in and It didn't have a factory seal on it and looks like water
Does your look like water too?

Yes, that's just what it looks like.  If you want to test it, mixing it with a very concentrated fertilizer (say pouring a few drops of Pro-
Tektt into a solution of 1 teaspoon of dry fertilizer in a cup of water) should cause it to precipitate white crystals. Sometimes when you shake the bottle, you can hear crystals sloshing around, too. 

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Originally Posted by fignut
Yes, that's just what it looks like.  If you want to test it, mixing it with a very concentrated fertilizer (say pouring a few drops of Pro-
Tektt into a solution of 1 teaspoon of dry fertilizer in a cup of water) should cause it to precipitate white crystals. Sometimes when you shake the bottle, you can hear crystals sloshing around, too. 
. Thanks I feel better now !😁

We have a lot of figrust here in Florida so we are looking to try it out on our figs and maybe one or two other things. Will keep you posted.
:)

Thanks for posting this.    I have some of this Silcone at work that I use on our Fireworks Grass.    I might give it a shot next week.    It cant hurt.    We use it on our grasses in production as a spray.  It's know to help out the grasses as they're stressed out during the production cycle.

This would be great for my fig plants however I can't seem to find it locally.

The only place I found that sold it in UK was an orchid specialist.
They might be the place to go or the Dyna-gro website has a store finder that could help or at least you will get contact info on that website to ask directly.

Pro-Tekt is available online, but garden centers don't seem to carry it.  If you have any hydroponic supply shops locally that might be a place to try - they usually have it.

AMAZON HAS EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING GARDENING

Yes, pro-tekt is available on amazon.com for $16.25US with free shipping.  On the canadian site, amazon.ca, the total for the same product with shipping is around $50CDN! I will contact a local organics/hydroponics supply store and see if they carry it (highly unlikely since the product is not listed on their website).

Very interesting to hear of your experiences. I have been watering cuttings with silica blast - another silica product.  But didnt think to use it to harden off trees. Will use it now with every watering until the end of this season.

Ramv, please be careful - I ran into trouble (leaf curling and lifting) with too much/too frequent silicon than some varieties could handle. When hardening off I usually only treat once or twice a week - but often wet the leaves of plants with a lot of green growth.  Good luck!

fignut, thanks for the note! I just started watering with silica and havent noticed any negative symptoms yet. I will ease off on the treatment per your advice.

I'm in so FL and rust is a real issue. I am going to try this as a monthly soil drench for potted figs, but it may be next spring before I can see results. I assume no noticeable effect on taste or appearance of fruit?

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Yes, pro-tekt is available on amazon.com for $16.25US with free shipping.  On the canadian site, amazon.ca, the total for the same product with shipping is around $50CDN! I will contact a local organics/hydroponics supply store and see if they carry it (highly unlikely since the product is not listed on their website).


I could only find one store in the Toronto area that has any Dyna-gro products its called Bustan.ca

fisherman2, There isn't any effect on fig taste.  This is a nutrient that plants will pick up naturally if it is available.  However, much silicon doesn't seem to be in available form, and many edible crops are now being treated with the supplement.  If you count lack of splitting and bug damage - it does affect the appearance - much better looking figs! ;-))

 It will be interesting to see if the rust protection will work in areas where the disease pressure is much worse than what we see in New England.  Please let us know your results when you have an idea how it's working.

Today when I contacted a local organics/hydroponics supply store they had a product similar to Dyna-Gro pro-tekt.  It is called DNF Potassium Silicate.  I definitely will be giving this product a try to see if if makes a difference to my fig plants. 

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