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Single node cuttings experiment

I have been watching this experiment for a couple of months, and I am so impressed!  Great job, great figdom!  I bought a few cuttings on eBay in December, and the offer was for 3 cuttings.  I received 3 cuttings plus one extra one-node piece.  The one-node did as well as any of them.  Thanks for sharing the experiment!

Hey Charlie.
Those single nodes are lucky to be under Your care! You have the patience knowledge and required green thumb to make it happen so keep up the outstanding work!
I wish I had half of your success Bud(you said I could call you bud, right?)lol
Thanks again for the cuttings and the inspiration!

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This single node growth is an awesome experiment. Would love to replicate or try one day.

Thanks for the good words!  

Here's some pics of new root discoveries.  When they get like this, they are about to take off.  You can see some leaf loss that happened before roots appeared.  These will not lose another leaf.

This sneaky bunch of roots happened on the other side of the cup from my view.  No leaves at all yet on any of the BM.  They just look like they keep shedding bud sheaths. This one will leaf soon I bet.

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Next we can see the shed leaf.  I thought this one was dead.

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This one lost a leaf and stalled, waiting for roots.

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This Mead didn't lose any leaf but stalled for a long time.

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Another Vasilika Sika that lost three leaves. 

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Have not up-potted any of the cup plants yet, not enough roots.  Can't say enough about the ease of up-potting the styro bowl plants.  The bowl lifts right off after flipping.  The roots on the good growing ones are enough they keep the media intact.  I fill the pots and use a bowl to mold an indention where the transplant is placed.  


Great work!  You're a hero!  Perseverance pays off.

Same BM as in first pic in the last post. 

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Her sister...

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No roots on the other three BM yet.

Big restructuring of the figdom going on.  Removal of non-producing bowls/cups and up-potting of others making it.  They like the gallon pots much better and it's a lot less effort to maintain.




Charlie, thanks for this great experiment, do you have any idea what it takes to read every post of 5 pages? A lot of time. Glad to see your success, even if partial.

I was wondering if you have considered Tim's plastic wrap for cuttings (whatever it is called, can't remember) instead of waxing, to prevent drying out the cuttings?

Oh geez I just posted this and now I noticed a new thread on "parafilm" I can't keep up with the people on this forum. Still would like your thoughts though Charlie.

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Charlie, thanks for this great experiment, do you have any idea what it takes to read every post of 5 pages? A lot of time. Glad to see your success, even if partial. I was wondering if you have considered Tim's plastic wrap for cuttings (whatever it is called, can't remember) instead of waxing, to prevent drying out the cuttings?


Yes I have read it through several times to remember what I did!

I kind of thought about it.  If any more cuttings are done I would like to try it.  Likely will not ever do it in the house again.  

How's everything going in the Figdom, Charlie?  Is everything up-potted?

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How's everything going in the Figdom, Charlie?  Is everything up-potted?


Everything that was in a foam bowl and had roots, even a little piece of a root, is in a gallon pot now.  This goes back to the very beginning when the Armenian cutting from Aaron was buried shallow horizontal.  When watering, it is mostly applied directly around the plant/cutting and let the excess get wicked away toward the sides that is staying rather dry.  So far so good.

Transplanting from solo cups is not nearly as easy as from the foam bowls but I figured out a way to do it that does not disturb the roots.  It would take a video to show exactly how that's being done but I will try to explain.

The first small cut is done at the top edge of the cup with pruning shears, just to break through the tough plastic ring. Then using a small pair of good, sharp scissors, A small chunk is cut from the bottom edge, enough to insert the scissor tip and cut all the way around, holding the cup in my left hand and pinky finger supporting the bottom piece so the mix doesn't fall out.

Once the bottom is severed, a side cut is made from the bottom to the top cut that was made first, still supporting the bottom piece with the pinky finger. The the bottom is allowed to fall away while gently squeezing the sides together to keep the mix intact. Then the whole cup can be set into a gallon pot which has a bit of mix already and loosely filled around the sides.  Then the cup is gently lifted out while pulling the sides open.

It's like a surgical procedure lol.  Far as I can tell it has worked well and they just keep on growing.  No transplant shock to speak of.

I have no more room to up-pot any more.  There are 73 gallon pots now and 52 still in solo cups.  Out of those 52 single nodes in cups, 17 showing leaf and roots and the rest are still a waiting game.


Good morning Charlie. Wow you're aproaching Bass territory there . Can you post a pic of the one gal. Figdom please?

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Good morning Charlie. Wow you're aproaching Bass territory there . Can you post a pic of the one gal. Figdom please?


Good morning Chris.  Here you go.

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Nice job Charlie, great thread.

All you have to do is get 24x36 resin shelves and hang 2) 2 tube T8 (or T5 if you can afford them  :- ) shop lights from the shelf above.  Gallon pots work great in that type of set up.

Charlie,

Your wife is an angel! I hardly can imagine doing this in my house.
Great job!

Charlie, I've lost track of how many cultivars you are growing, and what your total number of cuttings this year is. Which brings me to the need to count mine, I'm going to build an excel spreadsheet to keep better track of what I have and what stage they are at.  Then i can use it to compare notes, time lines and success rates.

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Charlie, I've lost track of how many cultivars you are growing, and what your total number of cuttings this year is. Which brings me to the need to count mine, I'm going to build an excel spreadsheet to keep better track of what I have and what stage they are at.  Then i can use it to compare notes, time lines and success rates.


That's what I've done, and it really help me track when I started rooting them, when I up-potted, etc.  

I have everything written on the label for each cutting, however, having a spreadsheet with all the info in one place well be very nice.  Beats have to look at the label to see where i am for time. 

The figdom looks great Charlie , thanks for sharing!

Been awhile and there was some talk awhile back, wondering how these would do in a season.  Well here is a good representation pic...

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We had a lot of rain and flooding in the Spring.  All the gallon potted plants I kept (didn't take to fig trial) were set on top of a raised bed full of composted wood chips and leaf litter to keep them elevated.  My yard was like a swamp all Spring.  One day it got hot and stayed hot.  Nearly lost them all in the space of a few days with the sun shining on the black pots, they lost all their leaves. I was sick and so I buried all of them pots into the wood chips.  They came back to life and put on new growth and leaves.  This is pretty much how all of them look, anywhere from 12 - 24 inches tall and a few trying to make figs.

Along the way I gave them composted rabbit manure and some diy liquid milorganite lol.  They seem to like it.  Issue now is all of them are anchored as roots have gone into the soil under the wood chip pile.  I have to wait until they go dormant to move them, or do air layers now.  I am going to do a few tomorrow for sure but not on these.

I would say the whole single node thing was a success for getting a lot of plants, though I lost most all the rare ones back in the fungus gnat/ spider mite ordeal.  No BM, no GN, no MF. :( 

I'll never do it again.  Stick with multi nodes from now on and bury them under composted stuff in the fall out in the yard and forget it until spring.

 


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This was such an informative read. I've started rooting cuttings for the first recently, and the thread has really been an eye opener for me. Thanks for sharing.

Hi Charlie,
That experience was a nice one.
Could you elaborate a bit more on why you wouldn't do it again ?
Is it just because you don't need that many trees ? Because those trees are smaller for now ? other reasons ?
What did you end up doing with so many trees ?

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Hi Charlie,
That experience was a nice one.
Could you elaborate a bit more on why you wouldn't do it again ?
Is it just because you don't need that many trees ? Because those trees are smaller for now ? other reasons ?
What did you end up doing with so many trees ?


It was very stressful.  Looking back, if I were to do it again I would start out with gallon size and skip the bowls and cups and only as many as I had room for.  Bit off more than I could chew.

Half or so of the survivors went to the fig trial I have a thread on here and the other half stayed in my yard to play with since the fig trial is some miles away and I don't have access to the grounds except on Saturday mornings.  I can do air layers here and help them by replacing lost trees with other varieties until they are all tested and either die or survive our climate.

I will probably keep some in containers to be shuffled in and out like everyone else does.
 

Very nice pics! Great ideas I'll have to try it.

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