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Single node cuttings experiment

Very happy to see your experiment is going so well, Charlie!

Thanks, I'm washing, cutting, and waxing nearly all cuttings today. 150 more going in cups and bowls in the next few days.

Charlie, 

You have inspired me to also give the single node cutting a try. I am experimenting with a couple of the cuttings I just received from Frank. I hope to see a portion of your success, they were just set up last night. 

Also, I keep reading that you have added 100 more here and a 100 more there.  How many cuttings are you housing, and what are you going to do with all of those trees?  You are well on your way to quite the orchard!

I'm glad you started this thread, I'm loving following it. 

Scott

Charlie is doing a great job, I tried single node but gave up due to not getting an adequate root system to support the growth that I wanted. By rooting several nodes on a cutting, I can expect 2-4 feet of growth in a season(depending on variety). My single nodes either eventually died and/or I have some that are 4-6 inches, some less. So Charlie is doing a lot better, keep up the good work.

Not sure what will become of these, still all an experiment.  Right now there are 150 foam bowls and fifteen 4 inch pots with mostly single node, a sterilite container with ten Unk Lake Spur and the other sterilite tray with around 100 single nodes, eight quart jars with multiple node cuttings, four quart jars with single node and a few terra cotta pots with transferred air layers.  

Figure I can fit another 150 single nodes in cups and foam bowls on the floor and tinkering with the idea of a shelf around the wall.  May as well make use of the light to the fullest since it's burning.

A backyard orchard for sure and still poking around for a piece of land.  A future nursery is not out of the question.

Mostly right now I want a bunch of trees I can give to my friends. Most have never tasted a ripe fig and only have the fig newton experience, such as me when I first joined the forum and started all this.

No mold so far with this method is what I'm really liking.

I think figgyfrank just recently posted a video on washing cuttings.  Here is the dirt from exactly one dozen random cuttings.  You never would think by looking they had so much gunk on them.

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Curiosity got the best of me.  This is a single node Atreano that has not broken bud yet, floated out.

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Crazy roots lol.  


Ok Charlie, I was going to send you a few cuttings but I've changed my mind. I'll send you a node instead. Just kidding they look great. I might have to send cuttings for you to root for me. By the node on coarse.

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Ok Charlie, I was going to send you a few cuttings but I've changed my mind. I'll send you a node instead. Just kidding they look great. I might have to send cuttings for you to root for me. By the node on coarse.


Be glad to. 

Been looking at the bottom of this for roots and saw a few last week but decided to wait another week. Remove the lid a little while ago.  Guess I'll be transplanting Unk Lake Spur tomorrow.  Hope I didn't wait too long. Will be floating these out in a tub.

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Charlie, Thanks so much, this is Amazing!

Start to finish. What is your cutting prep.

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Start to finish. What is your cutting prep.


None of the cuttings in the bowls were washed unless they were sent to me washed.  Just started doing that yesterday.  Unk Lake Spur were washed off with a water hose though.

I cut each, leaving about an inch on either side of the node if they are long node spacing, otherwise I cut halfway between the nodes or if the spacing is really close then some are two node cuttings.

Food grade cheese wax at 250 F in an old deep fryer is used to dip the ends.  

The bowls are filled loosely with media that is just barely moist, not packed.  

Cuttings are buried just under the surface, leaving the node exposed a little bit.  (pic above of the sterilite tub cuttings, they were covered with a good 1/2 inch of media and still shot up leaves)

The bowls were put in the bright room originally with plastic cups on them but the cups were removed and then they were covered with foil to keep the light and fan from drying them out excessively.  After noticing roots the foil was removed and watering with a sprayer twice daily was started.

Hard to say exactly how much water each gets.  I just wet the surface a bit so it looks wet.  Every day after work I get home and they are dry as a bone to about 1/4 inch depth. About every three days I give them a little more if the bowls seem very lightweight.  Notice on the cutting I floated out there are no roots coming out straight horizontal but rather angling down and bottom.

Room temp is in the mid 70's during the light off and up in the low to mid 80's with light on. 

That's about it. Nothing magic.  Just burying them and keeping moist.  

I do not know why it's working for me, it just is so I will keep doing it.  They still have a long way to go to be considered success. 

Only two out of five random Unk Lake Spur cuttings showing leafing in the sterilite container have any visible roots and not growing from the "bottom" like the cuttings in bowls.  Going to let this stay for awhile, now out in the light and get watering like the rest.

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Weird to me is how/why they started leafing in a dark closet in a closed container?  Actually more leafing on these than the ones out in the light which are showing way more roots and they were done the same day or one day apart, not sure exactly but it was within 24 hours.

Working on a step-by-step picture tutorial for single nodes in foam bowls, with HC cuttings I got from rcantor yesterday. 


Last year I forgot some cuttings in A bag of moss in the dark. When I found them the moss was almost dry and had 6 inches of new growths and was white . After some time in filters light they turned green. The tree lives today.

IM inspired by this single node. Think IM going to try a few myself.

Thanks for the nice comments.  Here's a prep in pics.

Finger drill three holes in foam deli bowls.  I think this is a 1/8 bit.  Four at a time.

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Molten food grade cheese wax in a fryer at 250 F for dipping ends.  The daubers are for any limb cuts not able to dip.  They are sold as wax daubers by mushroom supply shops for sealing inoculation holes in logs.

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Working with one variety at any given time to avoid mix-ups,the bowls are labeled and ready.  Depending on the cutting diameter, add mix till it's right where we need it, set the cutting on with node up and cover with more mix.  I'm allowing about 1/4 inch of mix over the top of these cuttings as an addition to the experiment since the sterilite container ones shot up through at least that much and it is about the level the mix in the other cups is drying to daily.  All cuttings prior to this have the node exposed.

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Change varieties and repeat till all bowls are used up.

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That's it.  They are on the floor of the bright room covered with foil after watering.  Just a light spray and a circular motion of the wand about three times around the surface.  Will have a look feel in a few days to see how moisture is holding up.

We'll see how it goes.  I now have a little bit of every variety going that has been sent in the last few weeks.  Forty different ones if my count is right.  


Wow.  I am sincerely touched and honored by a long time forum member, offering his cuttings as a gift to further this experiment. A very welcome addition to my collection, Dominick Heirloom Italian.  Can't wait to get them.  Thank you. :)

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Wow.  I am sincerely touched and honored by a long time forum member, offering his cuttings as a gift to further this experiment. A very welcome addition to my collection, Dominick Heirloom Italian.  Can't wait to get them.  Thank you. :)


That is fantastic!!  I'm sure that they will do just as well as the rest!  Charlie, I would like to thank you posting this thread.  It is both informative and entertaining!!

Scott

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That is fantastic!!  I'm sure that they will do just as well as the rest!  Charlie, I would like to thank you posting this thread.  It is both informative and entertaining!!

Scott


It is I who thank you all for making this possible and glad to entertain whenever possible. :)
 

Charlie,
Congratulations my friend, this turned out to be a very important tutorial thread for all of us. Thank you.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone :)

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Looking good, thanks for keeping us updated.

What is the time frame from planting to the above pic?

Appears to be started 10/19 per the first post.

I clipped a branch of my BT, cut a few into single nodes with an inch on each side and left about 10 inches of the green wood, used a big candle to coat the cut ends, then put them in a single tote with damp sphagnum on 11/23, to compare the development rate. 

Yes it was 10/19 and that is the largest of the bunch.  A couple haven't done a thing yet but swelled the bud a bit.  A Sal's El and Corleone rooted from multi-node cuttings just a few days prior to these are by far more developed and nearly fill their quart container with roots.  It only makes sense, the more roots they can grow at a faster rate, there should be topside growth to match, given the plant has what it needs.  There will always be more roots quicker on multi-node of the same variety given identical rooting conditions, or it makes sense to me to be so.

If these continue, I wager they will slowly reach a point of momentum and take off as if they were from a multi-node cutting.  By time to adapt them to outdoors, I will likely have a sea of fig green and not enough room for what there is started.  That could happen before time to go outdoors.  I have a feeling it will.  In such an instance I will have to adopt some out lol. :)

A crucial issue is the rooting medium.  What are you using?

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