not sure what i was thinking, but looking back, i ordered two persimmons, 1 pom.. Wonderful.. don't know pom at all, and a cherry... didn't know cherry needs pollinator. 

ordered clonex for the cherry, pom and persimmon. not sure if previous order for mulberry is in this shipment. i doubt it. but clonex will also be used for mulberry if they are in the package. 

it seems i ordered 4 different figs. Vernino and St. Jean was what i was looking for, but it seems i also ordered Dupine (?) and Nazarti or something. 

it's sort of funny since i always forget about the order. when it shows up, it's like... "life was like a box of chocolates. you never know what you're gonna get."

Congrats pete You're gonna need a bigger sidewalk.

Speaking of Mulberries... do we root those just like Fig cuttings? 

all mulberry cuttings that i have tried died slow death. none rooted. well.. one did, but that one died too. another member sent me rooted mulberries, but they all died too. hence i bought a tree. 

but i'll be playing with mulberry cuttings. i'm reading that bottom heat will help with mulberry cuttings. and that makes sense. all the mulberry cuttings i tried put on the top long before the roots. well.. no roots, but lot of leaves and fruits. so jump start with light hormone and bottom heat. suppress all the bud from opening.. or maybe i should just rub them off.. 

noooo, don't take off the buds. those are berries and grows to branches.
Mu UCDavis Mullberry cuttings came with swollen buds and they are so ready to open... I just deeper the ends in Parafin and wrapped them with moist paper towel just like fig cuttings... hoping for the best.

Pete,
I just stick my cuttings in the soil. They grow very fast here in Malaysia.

Norhayati

norhayati,

m'sia is very humid and trees will grow well. during the summer when it's humid here sometimes i see air roots on my fig trees, but it's rare to have that condition. also our soil here is clay. it doesn't drain well. 

but mulberry is something i'm growing to eat. not to collect like fig. 3-4 trees will do. sort of like blueberries and others. fig on the other hand is something completely different...

Morus alba types root very easy.  Morus nigra are very difficult but can be grafted onto alba.  I've written about this before....alba root even easier than most figs, in my opinion.  Forget about rooting hormone.  I have roots out the bottom of a pot and stems 16" long after a month.

>>> Morus alba (white) types root very easy.  Morus nigra (black) are very difficult ...

Good to know; thanks for the info.

Praise the Lord!!! I just received a shipping notice 5 minutes ago! :)

Harvey,

That's great news. I've decided to wait so I can be the last one to receive my order.

Thanks, James, I appreciate you volunteering to hold the end of the line! ;)

i couldn't even root M. alba last yr. i'm prepped. clonex just came in today, and the cuttings will get here tomorrow. anything other than fig will get hormone on half of em. i'm thinking mulberries won't be in the package. but there should be persimmon and others.

Pete, I've told this story before.

The first time I rooted mulberry was in March 2010.  A friend gave me 2 sticks each about 30" long.  More than I needed.  I cut one section from each about 12-14' long and I probably used rooting hormone and stuck it in a pot with potting soil.  The other two pieces I left lying on the ground in the shade on the north side of my greenhouse under an old pear tree.  A few weeks later I saw both of my cuttings were rooted and growing well.  Then I remembered the other pieces and just stuck them in the ground where they were laying and watered the ground a little bit.  Only watered once, I believe.  A couple of months later both of those were growing well and had rooted very well so I dug them up and put them in a pot and gave them away.  About a month ago I got two more Morus alba cuttings from a scion exchange.  Something a friend calls "Black Beauty compatible".  That means he is able to graft Morus nigra 'Black Beauty' onto it.  I stuck both of those into promix with no rooting hormones just like I'm doing with my figs.  Those both have roots growing out the bottom of their 3" square by 8" tall pots and the growth is 12-16" tall.  They are easy, don't try too hard.  Don't know why they would have failed for you before but I bet it was because you gave them too much love or something.  Play hard to get! :)

might be something to do with weather or climate or something. sticking cutting in a pot never worked for me. mulberry cuttings were treated just like the fig cuttings. out of something like 6 cuttings, only one rooted. then that one died. they callus very nice, but top comes out long before the root. and root doesn't follow quick enough. i think that why bottom heat is suggested in most articles.

I have had varying luck with rooting Mulberry. Some cultivar I have reasonable success with others I strike out completely I don't even beleive all Alba are equal in their ease  of rooting, but maybe they are not all Alba, USDA even has some labeled wrong in general belief of species I believe.

Pete, if you plan on clonex rooting your persimmon you might want to rethink that. I don't  really think they will root for you. 

James, Make sure I get through that door before you close the line.

i heard persimmons are grafted on to native persimmon root stocks. if they root, great... if not, i'll just buy a tree this fall.

I assume it was Kaki you ordered which can be grafted to either Kaki itself, American or Lotus. Most East coast grafting is on American, which is the easiest rootstock for us to obtain. A lot of west coast trees are grafted to lotus.

i ordered korean persimmon. Tam Kam or something. where can i get the root stock?

Pete, I'm not sure if Cliff England sells rootstock or not.  Check out http://www.nuttrees.net/ and http://www.nuttrees.net/persimmon.html (or the Korean language version of the page).

Tam Kam is Kaki.  Many of the State forestry services in our area offer American "Diospyros virginiana" in their seedling programs very reasonable
but they likley done with those offerings for this year  you being in NC here is the NC link,
http://ncforestservice.gov/nursery/pdf/NCFS_Tree_Seedling_Catalog.pdf

I know some folks use http://www.superiortrees.net/  Probably Musser forest offers it as well.

You Likely have native trees around you if you want to try and dig some locally.

I had the same problem as Pete with mulberry. I treated them in the same manner as the fig/pomegranate cuttings. The mulberry cuttings wanted to leaf/fruit, nut not grow roots.