Gina, the old link I had no longer worked but when I did a new search for "rice hulls" in Phoenix CL, that's the site that loaded for me and still shows up if I refresh. For some reason, some formatting here by F4F was messing with the link even though it appeared okay. I edited it to html and seems to work fine when clicking on it now. The second link is also broken, copy and paste to get to the horse supply place's page for rice hulls with descriptions (it is the web site for the seller, phone number is the same, that's how I found their web site.) Yes, they are selling rice hulls for horse stalls. Somebody at f4f mentioned them a few weeks ago saying they had just got some bags (SoCal?) from them to use for media.