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Sporotrichosis

Just a heads up on this.
Looks like I have been infected through the handling of Spagnum moss.
Off to the Doc next week to see for certain.
But sure looks  like it to me.

Wear gloves.

Grant
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Where you just using it to root cuttings?

Yup,
just using it for cuttings.
soaked it and squeezed out the excess water.

Grant

Ok, now I'm freaked out!

you sure it was from spagnum moss? the moss is normaly sterile.

I would then stay away for it then Grant .
Everyone is different in what bothers them.
I have used it in past with no problems but that me.

Course you could use some sort of gloves if you decide to use it again.

I have heard of this problem before.

I DO use SM with better fig rooting results and (so far) with no personal ill efects.

What I have heard, is that not, NOT to handle it if any hand-skin-cuts are present.

Wearing safety gloves maybe the best precaution...

I hope your doctor says otherwise next week and that you will be ok, Grant. Take care and let us know how you're doing...

Just thinking if you were allergic to eating figs like some are to peanuts now that would not be good.

Wife talked me into seeing the doctor today.
She, the doctor, thinks it could be just allergic reaction to the moss or handling the cuttings. I've used them before without any ill effects.
Sent a swab off to the lab to see if it is sporotrichosis.
find out next week.

Grant

I wrote this as a reply on a thread at GW back in '08. Hopefully, you don't have the disease, but perhaps this will add a little perspective and keep anyone from panic:

 

Yes, you CAN catch Sporotrichosis, which is a fungal infection, from handling sphagnum moss. It's often referred to as the Rose Gardener's Disease, since thorn pricks are a common way of introducing the fungus - barberry and brambles like blackberry and raspberry are also known sources. The fungus is also commonly found in soil, on flowers and shrubs, on wood products, timber, forest litter, and a variety of mosses, so it is almost certain it could be found in any potting soils that include any of these products (most commonly do). The most common source of infection is the house cat.

It should also be understood that not all sphagnum moss carries Sporotrichosis. The Wisconsin Division of Health, Bureau of Community Health and Prevention (BCHP), investigated a 1981 diagnosis of Sporotrichosis found in two brothers employed at a garden centre in Wisconsin. The investigation revealed two additional cases of Sporotrichosis among the employees.

The garden center had sixteen workers make funeral wreaths during the Winter of 1980. The infected moss used was harvested from bogs located in central Wisconsin and was purchased from a single wholesale dealer. However, in an investigation of a local cemetery where 12 employees produced 2,000-3,000 wreaths per autumn using sphagnum moss purchased from the same Wisconsin supplier, no additional cases were noted. Again, use your own judgment, but it appears that the source of the outbreak was limited to just one bad batch of sphagnum from a wholesale dealer who had also supplied countless quantities of Sphagnum moss that was completely free of Sporotrichosis.

Bear in mind that the risk of Sporotrichosis is very small; in the US the incidence of infection is not precisely known but is estimated at only 1-2 cases per million people, and most of those cases are from sources OTHER than sphagnum moss. An estimated 200-250 cases occur per year, nationwide. Statistically speaking, it is far more dangerous to cross the road than to handle the moss.

I know you'll use your own good judgment and common sense when/if you use it, but it is an effective anti-fungal/antibacterial medium, acting against those strains/species of fungi/bacteria that cause problems when we are trying to root.

It's been used as a wound dressing for hundreds of years, and as a favored medium of experienced horticulturists for rapidly inducing roots in air layers and cuttings. Bonsai practitioners have long used it as intensive care for trees that have contracted root rot because they were grown in heavy mediums with excessive water retention, commercially prepared and packaged potting soil being a primary offender. Sphagnum moss has excellent internal water retention properties, however unlike sphagnum peat, in its live form it is able to retain its open structure and so is fast draining and well aerated.

Less well known is that Sphagnum moss contains a high zinc content in the form of a naturally occurring antibiotics/anti-fungals called Tropolene and Sphagnan. The anaerobic bacteria common in heavier soils that cause the decay that inhibit woody cuttings from rooting are nullified by the antiseptic properties of Sphagnum moss. Hence, pure Sphagnum (without the addition of any other organic material) is considered by most experienced horticulturalists to be an excellent medium for root induction.

 

Al 

That's really to bad
I didn't know that you could get infected from something like moss
Just yesterday it was warm by warm it was 10 degrees Celsius I was walking the bush and came across a patch of long moss I decided to pick some up and was going to try to dry it and use it for rooting
now with this  Sporotrichosis stuff I'm a little concerned it may be infected
it doesn't look like it as any kind of molds that is at least visible if i dry it in the oven would that kill any type of fungi that is in it I just don't want it to turn into powder if I force dry-it
or should i just trash it
this is what it looks like

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The incidence of sporotrichosis is not precisely known but is estimated at 1-2 cases per million population. It is a very rare disease. It is not specifically related to sphagnum moss. The fungus is found in the soil so any type of gardening can potentially expose you to it.. Le's not panic.

These things can get out of hand I have used sphagnum for 40 years I have never worn gloves (I do wet it though to keep from breathing the dust) and I have never had a problem.

 Once I stepped on a walking catfish and got a bad infection but I still walk in the woods.

Mario- sterilizing that moss is a good idea. There will  be bug/slug eggs in it for sure. If you have a pressure cooker then that would be the fastest way to go. 

  
Thanks Brent
I don't have a pressure cooker but I can boil it that should rid it of nasties
I never though of the bug eggs that could possibly be in the moss
I think that will work

Grant I hope your okay and the results come back clean
do let us know what the lab comes back with
Grant where did you buy this moss from?

Thanks all.
no results back yet, The doc I went to on the weekend had never heard of sporottichosis but had seen "rose gardener's disease" before and began treatment for that. Seems to be clearing up fine. Looks like there might be some scarring.

Mario, I got the moss at Belgian Nurseries, between kitchener and guelph.

anyway, i will continue to use sphagnum moss along with gloves,

Grant

Grant happy to hear its clearing up hope there is not much scarring

As a long time orchid grower, I always soak  moss in diluted pool algaecide to disinfect it from such concerns. I occasionally hear about such infections by orchid growers who use moss. Pool agaecide is  found in garden centers and does the trick....

You can also use RD20 or Physan in lieu of pool algaecide. they're all pretty much the same chemical, although they are more expensive and not as easy to find.
Will post a link soon as I find it online somewhere.
Ben

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