mac, do you guys have armstrong nurseries in your area? Every year, they have 4 ft and higher trees, including VdB last year. I just went to my local store and they had kadota, black jack, and another honey fig (forgot name) this week. i think they order from dave wilson. home depot and lowes occasionally have that size as well, but i recommend calling them first to see if they are in inventory. these two stores usually have mission, and others, like kadota, desert king, and brown turkey