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Sucrette (Baud)

Excellent taste, one of my favorite.

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Congrats Vinny, looking really good. Every time you post one of yours, I think I want that.

Wow, are those kept in ground Vinny?

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Wow, are those kept in ground Vinny?


They are growing in a 30 litre container. I gave it a Greenhouse head start in spring and left it out since mid may.

Cheers,

So it actually ripened outside in this autum-like weather?

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Congrats Vinny, looking really good. Every time you post one of yours, I think I want that.

I'm trying to shortlist few good tasting varities and just grow them for their quality rather than just looking for a their ability to grow and produce well outdoors in cooler climates. Its better to put more effort and make use of available space for superior varities than the mediocre ones as the latter one never tastes good in our climate. Also trying to eliminate similar and identical types. Sucrette is a keeper but needs a head start. It won't taste good if grown 100% in the greenhouse.
Cheers

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So it actually ripened outside in this autum-like weather?

Yes 90% of my trees are outdoors and maybe 75% of 90% had a head start in the greenhouse. Some varities like Ronde de Bordeaux, Becane, Negronne etc don't need a head start. The 10% are the first year trees and extremely late varities. Having said that I live in a micro climate and it 2-4 C warmer than the rest of the U.K, sometimes even more.

That 's something I discovered as well with my Madeleine. Last year I had it all summer in the greenhouse and although the figs on it ripened, the taste was very mediocre. The colour was very intense though.
This year I just gave it a head start in the GH and put it outside by the end of may. It was amazing to see how the tree developed much greener leaves and really big figs and on top off that they actually ripened far better and had a real good taste.
Could have something to do with the temps to which the root system can be exposed in a GH.
Also, glass filters some of the UV, maybe figs need lots of UV to develop taste and sugars in the fruit and leaves.

Also it helps if you feed them sulphate of potash mixed in warm water from mid July.

Explain please, does it help with the ripening?

Yes potassium does help with ripening and nutrients uptake. You don't need nitrogen from mid summer at all. Just mix couple of table spoon of sulphate of potash in warm, I mean nice and warm not Luke warm water (10 litre watering can or bucket) and feed them weekly. I also add some Epsom salts every month as it's been raining a lot and the leaves turn yellow with all the nutrients leaching out and less magnesium uptake. Warm water make sure the roots absorb the fertiliser well. You can also just use a high 'K' fertiliser or a hydroponic 'PK' fertiliser .

This is a nice brand.

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I have a similar fertiliser in granulates, very rich in K but I have never used it for my figs, only for the peaches. Good advice from you to use it. What is epsom salt? Sorry for asking all those questions.

Epsom salt is made up of hydrated magnesium sulfate (magnesium and sulfur), which is important to healthy plant growth. It corrects the magnesium deficiency. It also helps improve flower blooming and enhances a plant’s green color (leaves).

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Epsom salt is made up of hydrated magnesium sulfate (magnesium and sulfur), which is important to healthy plant growth. It corrects the magnesium deficiency. It also helps improve flower blooming and enhances a plant’s green color (leaves).


Have tried sending a couple of emails Vinny. Please respond or send me a pm.

Thanks

Hi Vinny,
Your micro climate sounds pretty awesome. I'm only 25 miles west of you along the coast and I'm pretty sure I get a lot more wind and rain. Are you sheltered from the wind and do you get any problems with splitting if it rains just as the figs are swelling and ripening.
I do move some pots outside during the summer because figs do seem healthier grown outside than full time in the greenhouse but it gets a bit frustrating when its windy and the pots blow over. I can't have really large pots which would give more stability because they would be too heavy for me to move. The other thing I would be concerned about, growing more outside would be predation from ants, wasps, birds and squirrels.
Are they not an issue with you?
Hmm. Just thought of a solution of sorts, grow in smaller pots and bury them up to their rim in the ground each year after their greenhouse start. That would stop the pots blowing over in the wind and make them lighter to move back to the greenhouse after the growing season. The smaller pots would lead to fewer figs and require more frequent root pruning but also allow for more varieties. So quality over quantity?
Any thoughts Vinny?
Thanks

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Originally Posted by Vinny2210
Epsom salt is made up of hydrated magnesium sulfate (magnesium and sulfur), which is important to healthy plant growth. It corrects the magnesium deficiency. It also helps improve flower blooming and enhances a plant’s green color (leaves).


Why not apply a single product, which contains all these elements in a balanced way? I know for a fact, just to give one example, that too much Mg will enduce Ca deficit in the leaves.

On the other hand, the SiO2 is a real benefit, as this element is absent from any pot mix.

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Why not apply a single product, which contains all these elements in a balanced way? I know for a fact, just to give one example, that too much Mg will enduce Ca deficit in the leaves.

On the other hand, the SiO2 is a real benefit, as this element is absent from any pot mix.


Just as adding SiO2 the ones I mentioned above are only additives and added only to correct deficiencies!. There is no need for fertilisers from mid summer definitely not nitrogen but I feed them till fall anyway. I don't feed them with idividial elements all the time. I just use these as boosters for the trees that already got Figs formed. I'm this case I use potassium as a booster for fruited trees only!. In mid spring I use a high phosphorous bloom booster on top of the normal fertilising.

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Thanks


Hello,

If you look up Bognor Regis gets the highest amount of sunlight hours of of course city of London is the warmest (urban micro climate and all that). Our house is a new built and therefore less trees around the estate for now. I have never seen a squirrel in my garden and so far no bird damage.
My property aspect is southern faced and I also have a long west facing fence. We are kind of protected from the northern cool air by the sussex downs and my garden is sheltered however we do get some nasty wind. I always noticed the temps in the garden is few degrees higher than the local temps. Certainly nothing exceptional.

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Originally Posted by Vinny2210
Just as adding SiO2 the ones I mentioned above are only additives and added only to correct deficiencies!. There is no need for fertilisers from mid summer definitely not nitrogen but I feed them till fall anyway. I don't feed them with idividial elements all the time. I just use these as boosters for the trees that already got Figs formed. I'm this case I use potassium as a booster for fruited trees only!. In mid spring I use a high phosphorous bloom booster on top of the normal fertilising.

From spring up to end of July I feed them liquid tomato fertilizer, which is hydrophonic. It is very high K and has some P as well, the N is very low and that's how it should be for figs anyway.
Off course adding some single elements the way you do it, enhancing growth,  blooming or fruit development is a good thing. You obviously know what you are doing, the results are there to prove it. Thanks for the good advice.

Hi Vinny,

The extra sunshine hours are a huge bonus, that must be why those huge commercial glasshouses are sited in the Tangmere area. I hope you don't mind another query. My pots are placed on pot feet for the drainage and when the wind is gusting strong it can catch the big fig leaves like a sail and the pot topples off the feet and keels over. How do you stop this happening to your pots?

Cheers

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Have tried sending a couple of emails Vinny. Please respond or send me a pm.

Thanks


I Still have the same old email .

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Yes 90% of my trees are outdoors and maybe 75% of 90% had a head start in the greenhouse. Some varities like Ronde de Bordeaux, Becane, Negronne etc don't need a head start. The 10% are the first year trees and extremely late varities. Having said that I live in a micro climate and it 2-4 C warmer than the rest of the U.K, sometimes even more.


Hi Vinny, I wonder if you can help me.  Breba production is so poor for me i am looking at early maincrop figs instead to grow instead. I have a Rossa Rotunda fig which has given me 24 figs in only second year .  I am in Essex UK with a sheltered south facing garden and no greenhouse. Could you tell me which varieties you have which ripen maincrop for you in time without a greenhouse headstart and about when they begin to ripen. My Rossa Rotunda ripened from start of Septmber. I have LdA, Perretta, Violette dauphine, VdB and White Marsellies
also what is your breba production like?  i have a morena fig and it seems it focuses too much on maincrop which dont have time to ripen, but uses up all fruit which could be potential breba the following year. I have just bought a Desert king fig to plant in spring. Does desert king give you good breba?


Vinny, Mine isn't as red as yours, more amber looking. But I agree, it's an excellent
fig 

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Hi Vinny,

How do you stop this happening to your pots?

Cheers


I put them all together sort of high density planting on top of pallets that I picked up from a printing company and some of my pots are 85 litres or more.

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