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And they keep on coming...
You're really in fig heaven. How do you find all those wonderful fig varieties, Francisco? 160 grams for a main crop in that Portuguese "Brown Turkey"? Wow! I'm with Eli, the wasps must have helped.
They probably wouldn't have reached or even approached that weight over here.

And Violeta looks wonderfully juicy as usual. I hope i can taste them next year.


Wow the Violetta is very impressive! 
Did it get help from the wasp or does it always look this amazing?

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And they keep on coming...
You're really in fig heaven. How do you find all those wonderful fig varieties, Francisco? 160 grams for a main crop in that Portuguese "Brown Turkey"? Wow! I'm with Eli, the wasps must have helped.
They probably wouldn't have reached or even approached that weight over here.

And Violeta looks wonderfully juicy as usual. I hope i can taste them next year.




Frankly I do not think that there were much influence (if any)  from the wasp on these figs
Although the insect can be found on many places this does not warrant widespread activity.
IMO, this is genetic....plus -  the fig given ideal climatic conditions, heat, many sun hours, dryness, soil types, correct fertigation... etc etc.. will develop and ripen to a fine end product
I should have shown this BT earlier but, given all the stories , (cobras e lagartos) spoken in a sort of depreciative manner about it.. well, thought it was not appropriate to talk or show this fruit.
If you are interested in testing it in your grounds I shall arrange a few scions by the time of dormancy.
If you have grafted Violeta on a good root stock, Iam confident that it will give you plenty!
good luck

Francisco

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Wow the Violetta is very impressive! 
Did it get help from the wasp or does it always look this amazing?


Thank you on behalf of Violeta.
No,  I do not think it got any pollination at all.
Pollinated Violetas grow much bigger up to the 90/100 grams, crack the skin, etc..
The season for this cultivar (and for all others)  was great,  with steady high heat, clear skies for many weeks continuously,.. the right amount of nutrients in the soil, well aerated trees,  etc

Francisco
Portugal

Thanks, Francisco.

You are right. Based on the comments about the variety we read, i always thought it was one to ignore, mainly because of lack of flavor (hollow dry interiors or watery melon flavor at best).
One of the most uninteresting figs to own according to most users although it appears that are some strains that are worth while (http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/if-you-give-brown-turkey-a-bad-name-check-this-7802531?pid=1289941066)
Maybe the strain you have there it's also a bit different for the best (and quite prolific as we see) or it's the good growing conditions it has, as you say. It sure would be interesting to test it over here and compare.
And with such a huge fig the interiors should be drier as it happens sometimes with other varieties that have big figs but those are simply perfect.
I always thought that the wasps where mandatory to have such juicy interiors but those unpollinated Violeta prove that i had the wrong idea.


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Thanks for your offer, Francisco. If you can send a couple of cuttings this winter i appreciate it, just to be on the safe side.



Meg,

Grafting figs is not so difficult, specially Chip budding. Is just a matter of protecting the grafts very well against dehydration (they are more sensitive that other species).
And learning to graft figs is important. It allowed me to save some varieties i received.
Sometimes, when i see a cutting is not rooting after a couple of months and it's the last one i have, i remove a chip from the upper part of the cutting that is still green and it allows me to save the variety, despite that most of these grafts stay dormant until next spring.
It has come to a point that if i receive only one cutting of a difficult to obtain variety i prefer to graft it instead of trying to root it and risk loosing the variety.









Jamie: Its interesting to know that you prefer grafting. And, in particular, "chip" type. I have much to learn. But this is why i enjoy this group AND, why i love figs!

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Zidi is a Smyrna fig,  (caducous type) . It needs to grow in the correct environment as well as the services of the fig wasp for mandatory pollination.
Like most of the Smyrna types it  is very much flavored, sweet and crunchy with a high content of full seeds. Dried, it makes an excellent fruit to be consumed during the winter months.

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Those sort of darker stains over the skin are typical of this variety .



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Francisco
Portugal


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Amazing how all those figs look perfectly ripened throughout. Fig heaven!

How do you get the birds and other hungry critters to leave all those gorgeous figs for you?

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Amazing how all those figs look perfectly ripened throughout. Fig heaven!

How do you get the birds and other hungry critters to leave all those gorgeous figs for you?


Yes, you may say 'fig heaven'. My zone would be '11' on your scales - parallel 37º 13' N
Extremely dry, sort of semi-desertic
soils are mostly calcareous
Last short rains on current year were in April... after that no more ...just SUN and clear skies
Benefiting from the ocean breezes ..
Birds are a problem, yes!  - but they also have so many other figs and berries around

( for birds, try and  make a simple cross with two ..1/4" plywood  rectangles -12" x 4" -(*) and glue broken pieces of glass mirrors on each surface- all sides)
Suspend this assembly over the plants and let the wind do the moving with multiple reflections on every direction.. the most astute birds.. do not even approach.

(*) joined at 90º--making 8 reflecting areas

Francisco
Portugal

Hey,Lampo. You do not notice my photos and a message for what reason? No comments are going to be?

Francisco: That Zidi is pretty! And, a great tasting fig also! Yup, fig Heaven for sure! Do you sell any of your harvest?

Vladis, Brebera Branca looks amazing!

Smyfigs,1. FIG weight is very small. 2. Painting Figure painting is very different from FIG Portugal.

Wow, these are photos of some real knockout figs you guys are posting here. Thanks

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Hey,Lampo. You do not notice my photos and a message for what reason? No comments are going to be?


Yes, I did see the pictures and the comments. How old is this tree ??
The fig is great! IMO this is a very good start. As the tree grows and stabilizes, the fruit will reflect that. However one has always  to take into account all inherent differences - soil - fertigation- climate - pollination etc..

Francisco
Portugal

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Francisco: That Zidi is pretty! And, a great tasting fig also! Yup, fig Heaven for sure! Do you sell any of your harvest? Vladis, Brebera Branca looks amazing!


Thank you Meg
Zidi is a fine fig like all Smyrnas.
All my figs are either for the house or to be given to neighbors and friends


Francisco
Portugal

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Да, я видел фотографии и комментарии. Сколько лет это дерево ??
Инжир здорово! ИМО это очень хорошее начало. По мере того как дерево растет и стабилизируется, плод будет отражать это. Однако надо всегда учитывать все характерные различия - почва - fertigation- климат - опыление и т.п ..

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Vladis,

I think you have to be patient and wait till the tree grows and stabilizes
but I doubt you shall get similar amount of heat and sun-hours

Francisco

Франциско Паначе класс требует много тепла и солнца. На фото вы видите спелые плоды с хорошим весом. Правильно?

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Франциско Паначе класс требует много тепла и солнца. На фото вы видите спелые плоды с хорошим весом. Правильно?


Yes, you are absolutely correct !
Those are great figs!

Francisco

Vladis,

I also have Bebera Branca (i bought it from a nursery - Plântula - so it may be different from Francisco's tree). Nevertheless, the figs are similar to yours. I should said the fig, as it only gave me one last year and quite late (October)

My tree is in a very bad patch of soil (mainly clay) and it doesn't grow, it's barely surviving. I rooted a cutting and it's doing well. I include a picture of the leaves. I will plant this cutting in another spot with good soil and i hope the size of the fig improves when the tree matures.

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Slightly ahead of time here comes the Côteo Verdeal.

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Francisco
Portugal


Beautiful figs, Francisco.

Unfortunately, both cuttings of Côteo Verdeal failed. I placed one in coco coir and another directly in soil. After several months neither produced a single root. I should have grafted at least one of them.

Jaime,

You right. CV is not an easy rooter and we should always start by a few chip buds and/or clefts on selected robust stock.
Did root one for my brother starting from a 40 inch scion almost 2" thick and it's coming very vigorous.
Shall have to try again this coming season. I would suggest at least 45 day stratification.. think it will greatly help a quick response from the scion.

Francisco

Beautiful! The pictures say all as to the destination... the journey however.....

Thanks for sharing such beauties with us....

Tony

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