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Texas Everbearing...A true variety?

The Texas Everbearing name has been around a long time. I have 2 that have
been in the ground 20+ years. Both are from different sources and both are
identical to my Celeste. There have been many various descriptions of the fruit
and UC Davis lists one as W. Texas Everbearing. Does any one have one that
consider a distinct variety?

I have a TX. Everbearing and Celeste in ground.
 
My TX everbearing is not close to being like my Celeste, it is close to what everybody around here calls Brn. Turkey!
 
my $0.02
 
 
Cecil

I have one called Texas White Everbearing. Don't know if that is supposed to be the same fig, or not. There are new pix at http://figs4fun.com  It definitely is not Celeste (I have about 20 of those). it is a nice sized, flavorful fig. Went into the to 25 in its first year.

Hi Jack,

I acquired a "Texas Everbearing" this year, and it fruited well.  The figs and leaves were very similar, if not identical, to my Celeste.  The nursery I bought it from had three varieties: Celeste, Brown Turkey and Texas Everbearing.  The Celeste I already had came from a different source, but when I saw these trees for sale I couldn't help but wonder if there was any difference in any of them.  When I was at that nursery later - during the ripening season - there were figs on all three varieties.  Guess what?  yep...they looked the same to me.  Even the Brown Turkey looked like Celeste.  It definitely was NOT the same "Deep South" Brown Turkey I have.  I look forward to trying figs from the White Texas Everbearing I recently acquired, but it will probably be 2009 before I have figs.

Henry

Trees in the nurseries are mislabeled all the time for a variety of reasons.  They can range from simple human error to carelessness to creative marketing to deception.  In the end, most consumers don't know the difference if a Celeste is labeled .  Those who do, won't realize the error until the tree fruits a couple of years later.  So there is incentive for deception and no incentive to prevent error. 

Some members of the forums who are growing  notice a  resemblance between  White TX EB and  Kadota.   It is not the same as TX EB and it is not the same as Celeste.  Next year I should have a side by side by side by side comparison of TX EB (from Aldrich Nursery in San Antonio), Brown Turkey (Lowes), Brown Turkey (Monrovia) and Black Jack (Monrovia).  All will be 3-4 years old.  I could throw in a Celeste into the comparison, but my Celeste tree produces figs which are about a 1/3 of the size of the rest.

got a question,, did james ever do this comparison? where is that study/pictures comparing these fruits?

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Originally Posted by hlyell
Hi Jack, I acquired a "Texas Everbearing" this year, and it fruited well.  The figs and leaves were very similar, if not identical, to my Celeste.  The nursery I bought it from had three varieties: Celeste, Brown Turkey and Texas Everbearing.  The Celeste I already had came from a different source, but when I saw these trees for sale I couldn't help but wonder if there was any difference in any of them.  When I was at that nursery later - during the ripening season - there were figs on all three varieties.  Guess what?  yep...they looked the same to me.  Even the Brown Turkey looked like Celeste.  It definitely was NOT the same "Deep South" Brown Turkey I have.  I look forward to trying figs from the White Texas Everbearing I recently acquired, but it will probably be 2009 before I have figs. Henry


Henry did you ever put pictures of your "deep south brown turkey" anywhere at this site?


Here's my Texas everbearing



thanks Bass
that is the kind of brown turkey I am familiar with, well to a little darker.
the english look big and reddish pink to me.
I have seen some BT pictured that appear near blackish/gray
and your is called " texas everbearing" right?
and where did your TEBT originate from?
thanks so much for the picture.. that helped a lot!

I would love to see that comparison by James.
It sure seems there is a lot of confusion about the genetics of fruit called the same words..

bass does yours fruit after a total freeze back?
that is the main difference between a real brown turkey and a celeste right?
celeste only fruit on new wood growth after some one year or older wood right?

Bass, That looks a lot like a Celeste.

I suspect that Texas Everbearing is one of those names that has been applied to hundreds of trees, regardless of the true variety, so there are most likely many varieties with the name.

yes I think so too. I see way to many that look very different now.
ok so how do I locate brown turkey that fruit nice fruits after a total freeze back.
ok so everyone who has any kind of those that fruit after a total freeze back ( which is supposed to the attributes of a brown turkey, so we are told right right? but are probably attributes of certain genetic linear line that may be in many other fruits also.
can anyone show pictures of your superduperfruiters ( say that three times) :P ?

I e-mail Texas A&M to ask them what the difference was between the Texas everbearing and the Brown Turkey. A Professor wrote back and told me there was no difference. Here are two site that say the same thing.

http://klru.org/ctg/plant/name/Texas_Everbearing_Fig/

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/extension/homefruit/fig/fig.html

The interesting think is that the TAMU site also mentions that Kadota aka Dotatto is the same as Gentile.


My BT figs look nothing like TXEB posted by Bass. 

Unless my BT is really a Celeste and it was mislabelled at the nursery, but my BT has the distinct pink eye usually associated with unripe BT figs, so I don't think this is the case. 

Exterior of my figs is normally green with a purple blush (almost like a bruise), and has strawberry insides.

Brown Turkey




My Texas everbearing looks more like a Celeste for sure.
Jon's Brown Turkey looks like the Classical Brown turkey, you can tell by the hollow center and the elongated shape.

What Jon posted is exactly what my brown turkey figs look like, only my insides are normally not so dark (more deep pinkish).  99% the same, though.

I have never seen a fig like your TXEB, Bass.  The skin is wild.

well where we grew up there was a fig in some ones yard that looked like bass's " brown bread" or like french pastry . they told us it was a brown turkey. oh well.. maybe it is, probably it's not..
Bass does yours fruit after a freeze? breba and main crop?
are they cold hardy?

because I liked those peoples pastry looking figs.. are yours good?

I grow mine in a container and kept in cold storage over winter, so it wasn't exposed to very cold temperatures except for 25°F while in the Garage. I didn't notice any breba on it, most of the figs looked like that, maybe a bit larger.
They were very sweet.
Here's how it looks compared to others I picked one day.



Bass, do you have the same picture of the figs cut in half?  That would be very interesting to see!

great pictures Bass. thanks



Bass is that a Sal's EL or BC?



that tiger is a gorgeous yummy colored fig. is it yummy or just look it?

I took each fig and cut it in half and posted the photos on my site http://www.treesofjoy.com


This is Sal's EL. The Tiger tasted very good actually. but the best tasting one out of these in the photo was the Negronne when picked. They were all good figs.

Hey James, was your TX EVB the real deal?

Here is the leaf patterrn of my 9' tall Texas Everbearing fig:





cheers,

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