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Hi,
If everyone posting would post a photo of fruit and/or leaves to keep documenting ... We could get close to a conclusion ...

As far as my experience with my 2 years old inground brownturkey - Well I have it for two full years / bought July 2011 - It carried a fig that was pear shaped-It was a rooted tree in a 5 liters pot full of roots: It froze down to the floor in 2012, came
back as two stems, did show fruit but no one did ripe .
 So for me, Brownturkey is not able to ripen fruits on first year stems - Just my experience.
Second year the tree did branch on the two stems - the old stems did thicken , it showed some 50 figs, and only 4 did ripe - although we had the best autumn for figs - It didn't show any brebas but I'll confirm it, hopefully, in 2014.
2013's spring was a misery here .

I don't have access to TEverB nor to Celeste - and I'll trust you to be as accurate as possible on your trees .

Especially, if you have a strain that does fruit on first year stems with a normal growing season of 5 months.
My growing season starts as of 1st May to 15th October / People in Zones 9 are considered cheaters for me :) -
After 15th October, the figs have normally less taste and are less fun ... But still some can make ?usefull? seeds :) .

One thing I found funny at my Brownturkey, was a node with two figs. I had never seen that before ... Well screw it; none of the both did ripe; but still a pleasant sight .

Now this is what I think of when I think BT. This is not what my Texas Everbearing looks like.

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Originally Posted by pitangadiego
Brown Turkey

I got cuttings rooting that were labeled Texas yellow everbearing. I saw the pics and they were not like Celeste or BT. If I recall, more like kadota. I'll have to find the pic and confirm that. Have y'all ever heard if this variety or maybe it's the same as Jon's white?

Gene, I am with you on this.  There aren't many pictures of a "true" Texas Everbearing.  Everyone thinks all 3 (Celeste, Brown Turkey and Texas Everbearing) are the same depending on which state you're in!  Go figure!  In Bass's picture above, it is truly a photo of Celeste.  So, why the confusion?  The confusion comes from nurseries selling something they have , 1.  Either has zero knowledge of figs or 2.  sold a miss labeled tree and just stuck a tag on the tree jsut to make a sale.  But let's stick to your comment with is if we would photo our leafs and ripe figs, this could solve the problem.

Here is what I know about those 3 (Celeste, Brown Turkey and Texas Everbearing)

A few years back, I spent 5 consecutive days on the road with a U-haul on the back of my pickup looking for figs in South and Southeastern states.  I visited many nurseries (NC, SC, GA, AL, LA, & TX) and asked to see their figs.  The first nursery I went to had a huge selection of fruit trees.  Instead of talking to the owner, I talked to the staff.  Here is what the workers told me about Celeste, Brown Turkey and Texas Everbearing.  They said:

Celeste is a small fig almost always with a stem.  Has a reddish color, a tiny cavatity...but some do not have a cavity at all.  They said they heard of other colors of Celeste but they have not seen them.  But they get their trees from California or south Lousianna.  It has a light red pulp.  And its very very sweet.
Brown turkey is medium size fig...at least the Southeastern one is.  The brown turkey does have a small cavity in the center.  The pulp is red and sweet but not much flavor.
Texas Everbearing is a meduim and large size fig.  Open eye, ripens in June in the south.  Has amber pulp.  Breba crop is very wrinkly long tough skin but very very sweet.  The main crop is usually large depending on the amount of heat and rain.  Too much rain will delay ripening and sour fruit.  But the interior fruit of a TEV is always amber and in the righ condition the figs are very good.  The flavor is different from Celeste and BT.  Has a very strong figgy taste but sweet.

I may have a picture of one TEV fig from my tree.  I need to go look around my hard drive and camera.  I started a folder system for all my pictures.  Now I'm building a database behind it so I can find leaves and pictures much faster.  But the leaf pattern in this thread is totally different from all the other Brown Turkey figs I own and Celeste too.  I called and talked to Just Fruits and Exotics a few months ago.  I specifailly wanted to know their source for their Texas Everbearing.  I forget the young lady's name but we had a good converstation about the TEV.  SHe said, they have been searching across the US for the real TEV.  She said, most people do not know the difference between it and the Celeste and BT but she said, all 3 were not the same.  She said, they found a vendor.  She would not tell me who it was....I did ask and she did not feel comfortable telling me so I pushed no more.  They did put me on the waiting list for 2 trees.  I got them the first week of December so now, I have 3.  I nine footer and 2 -  3 footers.  I will post picture this Summer of all three trees including Celeste and Brown Turkey.

thanks

The 2 most mis-identified figs in USA, Celeste and Brown Turkey, the 3rd, Kadota, at least here in Texas.  A lot of Magnolia/Brunswick are called Texas Everbearing, that one is easy to spot.  Around East Texas if it has mostly 3 lobed leaves, it's called a Celeste, if it has 5 it's a BT.  Most people call them all "fig tree" and they are either light, or dark, or large, or small, figs.  I believe that there may be some BT variants around here.

East Texas was settled by a lot of people from Tennessee and Alabama and they brought a lot of Celeste, West Texas has a lot of Mission because of the Spanish Missions.  Around Galveston there are a few Italian/Greek varieties because of the "gateway" port of Galveston.  The majority of the Fig industry in Texas was in the Houston/Galveston area and most of the figs grown were Magnolia/Brunswick, there are still a few trees left in the Pearland/Alvin area but most were displaced by subdivisions in the early 1970's.

There are a lot of fig trees in Texas, in my small town, Marshall (pop. 23,000) there over 100 trees within 5 miles of the center of town, and I am still finding more in peoples yard.  I can sell every tree that I grow and Lowe's never have any left over.

I would never swear that any fig tree is correctly named/identified.  To me, the easiest fig to identify is the LSU Purple because of the shape and color.  I think it is an ugly fig, LOL, good, but ugly.

I do not know what I am talking about, this statement generally prevents anyone else from saying it.

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I have some rooting cuttings of TX Everbearing that were sourced from LSU's Burden Field tree. I would like to think that it is correctly identified. When and IF it grows out we can compare it to the others. I also have a three year old tree that was bought as a Brown Turkey however after I posted pictures of the fruit most said it was Celeste. We had a true ice storm this year with a low of 19F and it remained below freezing for 40 hours. I did not see any cold damage.

Hey Charles, it's been a year now.  Do you have any pictures to post?

thanks.

Hey Charles. Sorry to hear about your health problems . Whenever you're ready to start Collecting cuttings again ,you know what to do. You have a bunch of friends here waiting to help. Be well!

Thanks Chris,

I will in the future expand my varieties but for now I am still trying to put my property (yard and house was flooded just before I had the heard attack) back together. I have nearly recovered. It is horrifying how much Nature will recoup from your property if you give her a year. Of course flooding and 40 hours sub-freezing temps did not help!

Here is my current fig list as best I can remember:

In-ground

1.  LSU Gold

2.  Celeste

3.   Italian Strawberry (realistically an unknown but that is the name given)

4.   Marseille AKA Lemon

5.   Hollier

6.   JH Adriatic

7.   FALSE TX-BA1 (maybe Mary Lane seedless)

8.   O’Rourke

9.   Col de Dam Noir

10.  Heirloom Celeste (can trace back to late 1800’s

11.  Petite Negri

12.  Conadria

13.  Green Ischia

Potted

1.  Black Mission

2.   VDB

3.   RDB

4.   Cajun Gold

5.   Black Bethlehem

6.   Sucrette

7.   Verdal Louge

8.   Vista

9.   Thibodaux

10.   LSU Purple

11.   Celeste (three large in 45 gallon pots)

12.   Petit Negri (lifted rooted limb from in-ground)

13.   New Jersey Red

Rooted cuttings ready to be potted

1.   Vista

2.   Craig’s Green

3.   Emerald Strawberry

4.   Deanna

5.   Lattrula 

6.   Yugoslavian Black

7.   Gold Rush

8.    VDB

Air Layers
1.    O’Rourke 2x’s

2.   New Jersey Red

3.   Conadria

4.   Hollier

Grounded limb
1.   O’Rourke

2.   Petit Negri

3.   LSU Gold 2x’s

You're very welcome Charles although it seams like you will be the one donating cuttings to everyone else on the forum. Lol. You have quite a line up there.
Sorry to hear about all the rest of the problems you're facing. You know what they say . When it rains it pours! Thank God the worst is behind you now that you have your health back. All else is material and can be replaced. I hope all works out for you and know that our thoughts and prayers are with you!!