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"The Big Kill"....Winter of 2013 - 2014

Every one of them were killed.  All my trees, gone.  Some, I started from skinny twigs, back in 2007....are now cut down in the prime of life.  Most were older trees with good root systems, and had thick, 4" diameter,  baseball-bat trunks.  Many were planted in large 18-25 gallon tubs.  Since I started growing fig trees, I never had any problems with winter damages, or even die-back.  The trees that provided me with delicious figs, are no more.  I watched, with dewy eyes, as the garbage men threw them into the back of filthy, smelly, truck, and hauled them off.  I was prostrate with grief!  I rented a "fainting couch" and laid down, propped myself up on one elbow, held the back of one hand to my forehead, and struck a "woe with me" pose.  Now my mourning period, and wearing black, is over.  Life goes on.

Trees killed:

Atreano- 6 ft. w/4" dia. trunk-25 gallon  (DEAD 5/19/14)
Black Mission-  5ft. w/2" dia. trunk  (DEAD ?  5/19/14)....Sprouted leaves 6/14  UPDATE
Black Mission-7 trees-all 3ft. from tissue culture (Florida Hill Nursery)  (Might be alive 5/19/14)
Red Italian-6ft.w/ 4" dia. trunk  (DEAD 5/19/14)
Kathleen's Black-good riddance!  Reluctant to show her ovaries.
Hardy Chicago
Black Greek
Brown Turkey-heirloom
Bryant Dark (DEAD 5/19/14)
Sal's EL

and, others.....

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So now, I'm starting on a new quest for replacements.  I will not grow as many varieties as I did in the past, and I will pay much closer attention to fertilizing and watering, especially from mid-July through onset of dormancy.

Speculation as to why I lost all my trees: 
....Trees went into dormancy with new and old wood NOT hardened off.  Trees leafed out very late in '13 and were still not hardened off properly before the sudden dropping of temps. to the below freezing point.  My trees got toasted by bitter cold, winds in Dec.  I also started to move them into a storage shed way too late.  The deed was done by the end of December.  The freezing, relentless cold, added the Coup de Grace to the already moribund fig trees. 

The rest is history.  Lessons learned.


Frank

EDIT:  Weather in NYC winters is moderately cold.  Usually, the temperatures range for teen-20s at night, and go into the 30s - 40s during the day.  However, this winter the weather was a true Zone-7 from December into March.  It got too cold, too soon, and, for too long.  Not a good combo for fig trees.





We mourn with you Frank. Quite the loss for a fig lover. Really sorry to hear that all of them are gone. May your new figlets grow fast!

 You're an amazing writer.  Difficult to explain the feeling to laugh and cry  simultaneously. 
"Sorry" isnt adequate.  This really SUX! 

Hi Frank. so sorry for your loss.
I have some plants that I started this winter that your welcome to if you want them? Let me know if your ready to start all over again?
Vito

Sorry for your loss Frank. You have my condolences.

The Kathleen's Black's obit - too funny! Lol

Sorry for your loss. Maybe others can learn form this.

Do you know how low the temperatures got when the trees were outdoors? Were they wrapped?

When did you put them in the shed? Was the shed heated?

How did you determine that they were dead?

I have many small Black Mission trees that I would be happy to send you.

Hello,
how cold was it? 
If it was not under -20°C I would be very hopefull.
Then you can't say yet , that they were dead. 
Here in Germany we had winters with over -22°C and many fig trees survived.
We thought sometimes, that the tree has died , but it came from ground again in July and August and
everybody was surprised then.
I pray for you.

Kind regards
Dennis

Frank

Sorry about this tragic situation, I would be happy to give you one of my small unknowns also am going to Bills Figs in 2 weeks if you want me to pick up anything pm me he has a great selection,

Very sorry to hear this terrible news.  The elements can be destructive in many ways.  I see members are already offering you replacements. 

Suzi

Frank, if you can make it up to Lyme, CT this summer, send me a PM or email.
I can make you air layers of any you really desire, and I'll have some extra rooted cuttings.
It's a shame to lose big trees, but I'll have about 20 cold hardy varieties to choose from, to help rebuild your collection.

Sorry for the loss. Try to come up in July, we'll pick some blueberries too.

Thank you for your expressions of sympathy and I very much appreciate the friendly offer of replacement trees.  You forum members are the greatest.

Yes, it was a cruel massacre, but all is not lost.  I will rebuild my collection (I can't be without tree-ripened figs), but on a much smaller scale.  Because I have no alternative to growing containerized trees,  I will limit the number to just a few, selected varieties.  I also will limit container size to 18 gallons.  Lifting heavy, 25 gallon containers, at my age, will surely guaranty that I will be planted in a quick-draining medium.

@ Rich in NJ....

The ambient temperatures in December dipped into the teens and low 20s but it was the prolonged, freezing winds, that did the killing. Wind chill factors made outside temps feel well below zero.  The deep freeze never stopped for weeks.   I am almost certain that the new wood that grew in 2013 was not yet fully hardened off.  I stop all ferts. by mid July, and water only when trees look stressed.  I try not to grow trees with too much water.  But because my trees leafed out very late in '13 and I wanted to get to taste at least a few figs, I felt confident that trees would be just fine with my usual growing culture. .  In retrospect, I should have stripped off the few figs that grew, and just grew my trees 'harder'.  Dormancy stage started too late, and then trees got slammed with unexpected, plunging temperatures.  The newer wood didn't stand a chance.

I never wrapped any of my trees.  Didn't need to.  NYC temps. in my area very near to the Long Island Sound, are always tempered, and far milder than the rest of the State.  The vast areas of black top and cement also keep the temperatures on the mild side, effectively Zone 8-9 with occasional cooler periods, usually in Jan-Feb.  But even then, the freezing weather never really lasts for more than a week before warmer temps. return.  Not this winter.  Once we were frozen, we stayed frozen solid for months, and we had plenty of snow too.

By the end of December it was all over for the trees.  When I could finally break through all the ice, and snow that prevented entrance into my UNHEATED shed my trees were already dead.  Putting them in the shed was just an exercise in futility.  The stage was set, but I held out some faint hope that I would have at least some re-sprouting from the roots.  I should have gotten them into the storage shed BEFORE the freezing weather hit, and I should have used some thermostatically-controlled heating source to prevent the containers from freezing solid.  Even some light bulbs would have been better than nothing.  Subsequent deep snows and icing conditions made re-entry into my shed impossible.

When Da Bronx finally defrosted a few weeks ago, I reluctantly, and delusionally-in-denial, went into the shed to check on the trees, and to behold all the new green buds that were sprouting and ready to burst.  Instead, I saw desiccated stems, crispy twigs - that snapped with the slightest sideways pressure - and a sick looking yellow just under freshly scratched bark.  As the trees further defrosted, I dug into the soil and noticed that the bark on the fat, major roots just slipped off.  It looked rotted, and slimy, and smelled moldy.  I know dead when I see it, and the trees were dead.

The sad reality is this:  Take any and all precautions necessary, to prevent hard, prolonged freezing.  Unheated sheds are OK, but you might need some supplemental heat source to prevent damages, or tree/root death.  Cool garages are good too, with precautions.

I've said this before....growing fig trees is easy, keeping them alive -through freezing winters- is far harder.  Now, I will practice what I preach....with new trees.

Hope this story helps.


Frank




Geez sorry Frank:(

Well, sorry about your trees.  Post the varieties you decide you want to go with and I'm sure we'll all help.  Be sure to buy something from Bill so you get invited to his fig tasting party.  With cuttings you start in April you're not all that likely to get figs this year on your own.

Frank now that you are starting from scratch, which varieties would you go with?

Would you keep the same kinds as before or would you start out with a whole different selection?

I did a walk around last night, most in ground trees were damaged on all last years growth 6 - 8 " back from the tips. Time will tell for the potted ones.

I am so grateful for all the interest, and especially for all the generous offers to replace some of what I lost.  My heartfelt thanks to all.

There is a silver lining to this dark cloud.  I now have a chance to start over, from scratch, with some new varieties.  I have been doing some homework, and I am beginning to narrow down a few selected varieties that I want to try.  I must always keep in mind that I have a short-season, and some of the more exotic varieties that require more heat units than I can provide in my climate, are of course, off limits.  So, "short-season' figs must be included in my figgy repetoire.

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I have already ordered and received a very nice, "Black Mission" from Rabbit Ridge Nursery, SC.  It is already sprouting, and was shipped with a beautiful root system.  I received a tree that was trimmed to 4 ft. and has a heavy, 3/4" + diam. main stem/trunk.  I will probably get some figs off this tree, this season.  I've tasted properly ripened "Black Mission" figs and I think it's a "must have" for any collector/grower.  A good, easily found, "premium" tree to grow.

Next on my list to try ...."Sultane" / "Noire de Bellone"....why?  Short-season, fairly hardy, and reputed to be a delicious, rich-tasting fig, as good as "Black Mission" but with a different flavor profile.....and, because I can find it from a local source.

Next:  "Bryant Dark": a 'must-have',  Bronx, NYC, unidentified, variety.  Why?  Hardy in Zone-7.  Original trees are growing, in-ground, unprotected, for 40+ years.  Taste: excellent, a slap yo' mama delicious blend of ripe apricots-peaches-black raspberries, with a nice acid sizzle at the end, to buzz your tongue.  Not cloying sweet.  Just yesterday, I was lucky to get a bearing-age tree from Pete (ascpete) which I will proudly grow to fruition.  Thanks again Pete.  You're a real mensch.

So what would I pick to grow out of my old trees?  Honestly my best performing fig was the "Red Italian" unknown.  It consistently produced dozens of small figs that tasted like black-raspberry jam, and grew without any trace of a problem.  I will miss this tree.  "Atreano", was another tree I will miss.  The huge, golden-yellow figs were so delicious.  It is a prolific producer and being a "white" fig, the flavor was more delicate than the good "blacks", but just as easy to go down.  Perfect with some assertive cheeses and a sip of desert wine, or sherry.  "Kathleen's Black" I will not miss, at all.  Just too meh!  Never produced a fig, and was slow as molasses.  In a different section of the country this variety might be worth the trouble, but I have a very short attention span.  So long Kathy B.  I hardly knew ye.

Sometimes starting off with a clean slate can be a welcomed task.  At least I will have some trees to grow this season.  I'm Italian, it's in my DNA to grow figs.  : )

Frank

Frank, no matter what we say, the words won't replace your losses... ;/
 I can offer you one of my rooted Brown Turkeys...hoping it will last you a long time, since BTs are cold hardy and vigorous growers... 
PM me with your address if you decide you wanted one :)
Bev Hills Black from Home Depot.jpg 


Frank,
so sorry for your loss. I have a few in ground trees killed to the ground, but should grow back from mulched roots. We hit 0 degrees a couple nights. Most of my trees are young and in pots. Look at my fig list. I will be happy to start some air layers for you.

Frank,
I am so sorry, I think mine have also suffered the same fate. You described our weather to a tee. I saw the same things with my smaller figs. The weather was definitely brutal and relentless.
Good luck with your new figs.
Your fellow Bronxite,
Colette

I'll have at least one Calliope's Red Greek for you and maybe some local figs from Kearny and East Hanover NJ
The red Greek has been growing in ground in Michigan by a distant relative ( my mothers sisters husbands sisters husbands mother) for like 80 years. It's been chopped and buried every year and nearly every year it has figs

Michigan is a cold, cloudy and aweful place. I'm sure that fig will flourish for you in the Bronx

I also have Dago Pete's Purple Italian unk. (found growing in ground in East Hanover NJ and was originally brought from Italy by Pete) that might be like your missing Italian red

Frank,
I could only imagine losing all my plants, luckily they're just plants and you could always start over

Replacement offers keep piling up.  How can I express my sincere thanks to all the generous members who want to help?

I hope that other members in the cold climate zones will not have a similar experience.  I'm sorry to see another Bronx, NY grower Smaritza, has reported that her trees were severely damaged or maybe killed off.  I have a funny feeling that others will report about damaged trees.  Herman...how are your trees looking?

2013 gave some East-Coast fig growers a double whammy.  It was cold and rainy in the spring, and consequently, many of the fig trees took forever to sprout leaves. It was June before I saw leaves on some of my trees.  In fact, I thought some of my trees were dead.  This was followed by a short, and cool growing season.  Then, a very short dormancy period - actually, it was more of a "quiescent period", and then - bang!....deep freezing weather lasting for months, and continued into March-2014.  A good 4 months of relentless sub-zero winds, snow, and ice.

So, we all live and learn.  Now my trees will go into the shed by early December, and I'll give them a little warmth while they sleep away the winter months. 

My new credo: Better safe than sorry. 

Good luck with your trees in Zone-6/7


Frank

Hey Frank, I am sorry to hear about your trees. If there is anything you are looking for let me know and I will try to help you out. I have some extra plants that are a few years old that you can have if you want.

Sorry to hear of your loss.  I know it hurts.  Let us know what you're interested in as far as replacements.  

I have a Bryant Dark that I just up potted to 2 gal.  It was in a 32 oz drinking cup under a grow light for a few months.  The leaves are a little ragged (vacuum cleaner incident.. don't ask), but it seems to be doing well.  Let me know if you want it.

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