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and the winner is... brogliotto nero, a growth of 5 inches in 7 days, from
46 to 51 inches!

and the rest of the field?

sal's corleone 39 1/2 to 43, + 3 1/2 inches.
brown turkey (?) 47 to 51, + 4 inches
lsu giant celeste 43 1/2 to 46 1/2, + 3 inches
mary lane 44 1/2 to 46 1/2 + 2 inches
alma 33 to 37, + 4 inches
natalina 36 to 37, + 1 inch
nero (bellecare) 32 to 35, + 3 inches

this is a week to week measurement of the hightest apical bud, leaves don't count.  of course, it's not the most scientific study, but i was just curious as to exactly how much growth i was getting.  the well was broken for 4 days during this test, so they did miss some water, though they showed no signs of it when i got here 3 days ago from my work trip.

the winner, brogliotto nero, was purchased as a plant in a 20 oz cup from
on ebay and planted this spring (i wintered it in a pot, and it barely survived).

figs for fun :).
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now we're talking from 7-15 to 8-8, a total of 23 days.  the growth is definitely slowing dramatically as the trees are getting covered with figs.


an update... still in the lead is brogliotto nero, from 46 to 59 1/2, total growth 13 1/2 inches

sal's corleone 39 1/2 to 45 1/2  + 6  inches.
brown turkey (?) 47 to 54, + 7 inches (still very few figs)
lsu giant celeste 43 1/2 to 55, + 11 1/2  inches
mary lane 44 1/2 to 51 1/2 + 7 inches
alma 33 to 42, + 9 inches (few figs)
natalina 36 to 40 1/2, + 4 1/2 inch
nero (bellecare) 32 to 43, + 11 inches - coming on late.

i'm sure it will all slow down from here as we head into september.  i just cant wait till the grass stops growing and i can get the lines buried so i can mow easier.  i'm using 8-2-6 time release fertilizer, watering daily with drip.
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Mike thats nice your keeping tract of different cultivars growth rate.
To think i worry about my "smaller plants" growing so fast this late in season and taking measures to slow such as my ronde and griese plants.
So different the climates.
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Would love to see some pictures of your trees. For how long you`ve been growing figs ?
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this is my 2nd year.  i have one tree that's seen 2 winters here.  the rest are only a bit over a year old.  i'll post some pics in a few days.
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It must be very gratifying to see that kind of growth!
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you know, not really.  i expect more :).  i probably got the room for about another 125 figs i figure.  the beauty of having all these varieties is they come in at different times, so i should have figs for a long season.  i got the same situation with my blueberries.  i'm still picking blueberries, though it's all about out.  i had them over about 3 1/2 months, i think. 

next year i am going to be better prepared and not let jack frost chop all my trees off at the ground.
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What will you do to protect them? I'm assuming that if they're fully dormant, a sheet thrown over them on the coldest nights is probably enough in your zone (that's what I do), but if you have another strategy, I'd like to hear what you do.
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they never go dormant here, so the flash freezes kill them to the ground every year.  this year i'm heaping woodchips/leaves around them. 


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now we're talking from 7-15 to 8-14, a total of 30 days.  some trees are slowing down, others are making a sprint for it.  i've got hundreds of figs out there, but i'm not sure how well they'll all ripen :).

still in the lead is brogliotto nero, from 46 to 63 1/2, total growth 17 1/2 inches ... averaging over 1/2 inch per day :).

sal's corleone 39 1/2 to 46 1/2  + 7  inches.
brown turkey (?) 47 to 56, + 9 inches (still very few figs)
lsu giant celeste 43 1/2 to 58 1/2, + 15  inches
mary lane 44 1/2 to 55 1/2 + 11 inches
alma 33 to 45, + 12 inches (few figs)
natalina 36 to 40 1/2, + 4 1/2 inch (not growing anymore, but looks great)
nero (bellecare) 32 to 45 1/2, + 13 1/2 inches
 
i've got several  figs that were too small to bother with when i started this that are now suddenly over waist high.   
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Some comments:

Is your "lsu giant celeste" the same as LSU "Tiger" (greenish
fruit skin should have some brown-stripes on it).

My (UCD) Marylane did grow-up and produced good fruit;
however it keeps showing constant FMV signs on the leaves.

My BC#5 Nero is very upright vigorous...
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the lsu giant celeste was purchased from james robin.  it is supposedly the lsu tiger according to his sheet, as i recall (can't find his sheet).  but there are no stripes on the fruit, brown or otherwise.  this is probably my fastest growing tree.  aside from how it's growing up, it's growing out.  so i am not sure if the fruit looks differently because of this verses how it will look in subsequent years.

my bc nero is from some guy on ebay who was selling under the name "figsnstuff" :).  somehow i think we've got the same genetic material.  my nero got knocked so flat this year by the winter, it's only really started to grow and now it's making up for lost time.   i would agree it's a vigorous plant, it just started out terribly this year. 

my marylane is from james robin, no signs of fmv, has fruits but none close to ripe yet.

some of my plants have produced nothing except rapid vegatative growth.  i have 3 black missions and not even any green fruits.  my lsu holliers (got 4 of those) have 1 green fig between all 4 of them.  lucky for me i've got probably till the end of november before the end of the growing season.
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The word "Nero" tranlates to "Black".  My (medium-sized, roundish) Nero fruit
showed no blackness. Skin color is very unique as descriped below.
To best of my memory, the pulp was of the pink/amber kind. 

(BC#)5.  NERO (Italy) (a) large, purple-red (wine color) dark center (2 crops)

P.S. There exist other figs with the name/sym as "Nero"...
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what about brogliotto nero? (spelling?). 

i'll definitely be here with pics when they start to ripen.   i put time release fertilizer on them and we're having lots of little rains.  i'm hoping some of these get so thick that they survive this winter at 6 to 12 inches above ground so i'm not starting out with only roots again like i did last year.
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Black/White (prefix and/or suffix) are the most common/abused
fig-colors: as much as are the Celeste/BT fig-names...

As for Brogiotto Nero (dark skin color), there is also a
Brogiotto Bianco (light/green)....

Very recently, I have learned that very possibly I knew these
figs (at least the dark one), form my childhood back home.
1-crop  ripening mid-Aug+; one of my most best-tasting fig back then).

I have heard that it does ripen in upstate NY (from my fig-friend source).
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